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    My monk parse sucks for what my gear is. Someone help me twT

    I can't get anyone on my server to help me cuz apparently I don't know any monks. I am parsing between 500-520 on a practice dummy without party buff. (These parses lasted 5 minutes (before TP starvation got too much and I had to stop) hitting the practice dummy and I did 4 attempts, getting the same results each time. During those 5 minutes I had my parse on screen watching the fluctuations in DPS, not just the DPS displayed at the very end of the parse)

    Yes I know my positionals and hit them all every single time.
    Yes I am hitting my GCDs immediately without delay.
    Yes I am using my DoTs. I stated that already but it must have been ignored.

    All standard monk things up like fist of fire.

    PB opener: SP, IR, SP, B4B, Demo, DK, Twin, Steel Peak, Howling Fist, ToD

    Rotation afterwards: Boot, True, SP, DK, Twin, Demo, Boot, True, SP, DK, Twin, SP, Boot, True, SP, DK, Twin, Demo.

    I am using all of my abilities immediately with no delays. I am using B4B whenever it's up and IR whenever it's up. Sometimes I wait to use Demo and refresh ToD if B4B will be off CD in a second or 2.

    If you have any questions please ask. I seriously have no one to help me and I can't figure out anything I could be doing wrong because my friend parsed 550 on a practice dummy with less superior gear than me... almost all i110 with some i130 and i115 weapon. (My Relic is i115 btw). I ask him what he did "I don't know lol..." great friends really. So maybe you guys can help me TwT

    These are my stats:

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    Last edited by Elusana_Celah; 04-24-2015 at 02:33 PM.

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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Well I guess the obvious question is, did you hit all your positionals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Well I guess the obvious question is, did you hit all your positionals?
    Yes of course. I thought that was implied, sorry.
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    Just checking XD not implying anything.
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    Lorielle Kurayami
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    There's probably better rotations out there, but this is what I normally do for any opening:

    Shoulder Tackle(I mean 9/10 you'll be far enough anyway. Free damage) > ToD(Want to do it earlier rather than later) > PB >
    Demolish(Same reason as ToD) > SP > IR + Howling > SP > BfB + Steel Peak > SP > SP

    For starting rotation after PB:

    DK(Keep in mind, you are out of form, but potency is stronger than Bootshine) > Twin> SP > DK > True > Demolish > ToD

    and pretty much go from there. This is basic stuff, though I'd only hit 560-570 on dummies without any party buffs or meds/foods. But yes..Like I said, there may be a better rotation out there. Just something I do a lot.

    Edit: Looking at my rotation, could definitely move IR + Howling right after Demolish. Give the last Snap an extra kick. Spiffy. o:
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    Last edited by Lorielle; 04-24-2015 at 08:17 AM.

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    Sunny Hirose
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    Monks don't generally talk about 5 minute parses because they'll run out of TP going solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Monks don't generally talk about 5 minute parses because they'll run out of TP going solo.
    Umm I use invigorate every time it's up as long as I have 600 TP or less and TP isn't generally an issue for me. This reply doesn't do anything to help me figure out my problem. I wouldn't waste my time posting here if I was bull shitting you all with the information I gave.
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    Umm I use invigorate every time it's up as long as I have 600 TP or less and TP isn't generally an issue for me. This reply doesn't do anything to help me figure out my problem. I wouldn't waste my time posting here if I was bull shitting you all with the information I gave.
    All melee DPS run out of TP and start losing DPS quite fast after 4 minutes, MNK is by far the first one to run out. If you're not running out of TP by 5 minutes, you're either not using your DoTs at all or not hitting your GCDs in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    All melee DPS run out of TP and start losing DPS quite fast after 4 minutes, MNK is by far the first one to run out. If you're not running out of TP by 5 minutes, you're either not using your DoTs at all or not hitting your GCDs in time.
    I said my parses lasted 5 minutes. I stopped the parse after 5 minutes due to TP starvation. During those 5 minutes I had my parse on screen watching the fluctuations in DPS, not just the DPS displayed at the very end of the parse. The person seemed to imply that I couldn't make a 5 minute parse because I'd be out of TP beforehand, which I was not due to hitting invigorate every time I had it up.

    Would it be possible for me to get some advice from other monks such as the advice Lorielle said? I am not failing to do higher DPS because I'm not hitting my GCDs or DoTs. I am not so retarded as to go posting on a forum asking for DPS help when my problem is because I'm not pushing buttons fast enough. I've edited my post to include most specific details for those who are assuming I am making unfathomably dumb mistakes.
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    Last edited by Elusana_Celah; 04-24-2015 at 02:40 PM.

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    Depending on your Invigorate timing and your skill speed you can actually extend your rotations beyond 5 minutes without becoming completely TP starved (though I will say the farther you go past 5 the closer you will get to rock bottom unless you have pretty low skill speed) which might mean that part of your "low" parse is due to low skill speed although your stats seem fine (a primary Monk would know what ideal SS is better than I do) or possibly where you throw in BfB, as at least on Drg you try and get BfB up so it affects your DoTs which can be a massive increase in damage. I pulled hate with just DoTs in t10 before because the tank focused too much on the Daughter and didn't work the Son a bit.

    Also, weapon damage significantly affects DPS, so if you upgrade to say, Zodiac or Zeta, your numbers should go up quite a bit as well.
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