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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Masterbook 2 helps pls

    So i've been watching vids on rotations etc but most seem a bit out dated as im in the situation of i have lucis and 333cp (without food )/376 cp ( after food)with artisan turn in gear with artisan of hand.

    The rotation i saw/ use now is
    Comfort zone
    Inner quiet
    pbp x2
    Steady hand 2 + ingenuity -> rapid synth x2
    Hasty touch x2
    Comfort zone
    Master mend 2
    Steady hand 2 + waste not 2
    Hasty touch spam till 20 durability
    Great strides
    Ingenuity 2 ( if enough cp )
    Innovation
    BB
    Careful synth 2

    I use ToT when i can before Hasty touch spam.
    Tho i only got 1/5 hq attempts
    I try to land BB on great or excellent
    But it usually goes plllbttt lol
    Anyone have a better rotation thts more cpnsistent?
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    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Baron Eduardo
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    I don't really like Waste Not 2 because you'll run out of Steady Hand 2, and you "lose" a stack of WN2 if you reapply it, or if you don't reapply it the next 4 or 5 hasty touches are gonna be only 50% chance of working (more like 20-30% due to the evil nature of this game RNG)
    Also, you either miss 20CP or a stack of WN2 for each Good condition that you (dont) use Tricks of the trade...

    I did these books a while ago before Lucis existed, and with most classes i didn't have artisan off-hand tool, I'm sure it's different now with Lucis.

    I always used ToT whenever possible, refreshed Confort Zone whenever needed, no WN2, and did 2 Master Mend II during the craft, possibly another manipulation in the end if CP was high enough.



    Try to get at least a Good condition on an at least partially buffed Byregot, at 11 stacks of Inner Quiet.
    (Ideally, excellent condition with a fully buffed Byregot)
    If that doesn't happen, Rumination to burn your IQ stacks into CP and Reclaim. Use hasty touches to fail the craft, hope to get your items back, and try again.

    (I had to remove Careful Synth 2 to have all skills needed. Not a big problem, basic synth worked fine)
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    Lineage Razor
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    Waste Not II is, well, a waste. Cheap as it is, it loses its value every time you use Tricks while it's up - and you should be using Tricks every time it is up, not just during "safe" periods when there's no buffs ticking down.

    Replace WN2 with Reclaim. That way, when you can't land on a good or excellent (and this will happen OFTEN), you can abandon ship and try again. If having the CP for Reclaim is a problem, drop Ingenuity 2 and replace it with Rumination; if you're going to Reclaim and try again, you won't need the IQ stacks for BB, so you can use them for Rum instead, and that will give you plenty of CP for Reclaim.

    Ingenuity and Ingenuity 2 are practically worthless on 3 and 4 star synths, as they only slightly increase the potency of synthesis, and they cost SO much CP - especially if you're using it twice!
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    Ah ok i'll try using rumi as a fail safe combo with reclaim cuz sometimes im like nooooooo too short of cp and no ToT procs for like 5 steps lol.
    So is
    Comfort zone
    Inner quiet
    PbP x2
    Steady hand 2 + rapid synth 2
    Still the way to go? For making the synth almost complete.
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    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    yeah pretty much
    2 basic (or careful2) synths should finish it iirc
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    Hey thanks lol i managed to hq 2 of them on the first 2 tries.
    I really like that rumination + reclaim fail safe thing, w
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Hey thanks lol i managed to hq 2 of them on the first 2 tries.
    I really like that rumination + reclaim fail safe thing, w
    Hey, congratz! This post has actually given me some confidence to try them out tonight!
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    Last edited by Lilyth; 05-14-2015 at 03:32 AM.

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    Jordan O'niell
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    Another pointer for maxing your finishing Control boost is:
    Steady Hands II > Ingenuity II > Innovation > touch > Great Strides > Byregot's > Flawless Synthesis II.
    The primary difference is to start your finishing rotation when you are at 30 instead of 20, thus allowing you to benefit from Innovation on two touches.
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    Last edited by ChameleonMS; 05-16-2015 at 09:02 AM. Reason: Replaced second touch with Byregot's as it was a typo.

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    That will increase the Quality added by that last pre-BB Touch, but will not boost Control any more than a more standard BB finisher would.

    The tradeoff is a loss of the ability to fish for Good/Excellent. Steady Hand->Great Strides->Innovation->Ingenuity 2->Byregot's lets you pop the Byregot's on any Good or Excellent after the Great Strides.

    The only thing I'm not 100% positive on is whether the Innovation or the Ingenuity is a bigger boost. The bigger boost would be used first, in case of a Good/Excellent on the second turn after popping Great Strides.
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    Lumos Lightheart
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Keep in mind you can desynth the NQ's if you've got desynth leveled in that craft, so they aren't a complete waste. Honestly, Mithrie's crafting guides have been the most help to me out of anything. https://www.youtube.com/user/Mithrie

    Remember these are the hardest synths in the game right now, and it is very hard to get a quality, so you're gambling on <50% HQ chance alot.
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