Is there some unspoken rule to not use Esuna/Leech?

[nyttyn]

It really depends on the debuff.

Most poisons aren't worth cleansing, and it's often more MP efficient to just slap a heal on the DPS.
Paralyze is worth removing basically all the time unless it's an exceptionally short duration paralyze.
Silence is a top priority to remove, especially if it's on another healer. If it's on a physical DPS though then whatever lol. Pacification is the same but lol on magical DPS.
Warrior's pacify is such a short duration that it's often not worth removing. If you can perfectly cast the pre-time you'll remove all 5 seconds, sure, but often you're going to be busy casting something else once Berserk ends, and by the time you can actually get around to cleansing it it'll be anywhere
from 4 to 2.5 seconds remaining in duration - and with Esuna having a 1 second cast time, not really worth it.

Most of the debuffs you'd really want to prioritize removing are esuna-immune though which sucks but oh well.

[Woggers]

Paralysis on a BLM is absolute death on their DPS. And it should always have priority after healers/tanks. If I have an unavoidable paralysis or even that DPS reducing debuff from gaols, I'll just transpose and sit there until they run out if I'm not getting esuna/leeches. It's not like I'll be damaging anything anyways. Sure there are exceptions but for the most part it's because they are lazy, or don't know their job.

If you're not going to play your job correctly, then why should I?

[Wizarus]

Paralysis on a BLM is absolute death on their DPS. And it should always have priority after healers/tanks. If I have an unavoidable paralysis or even that DPS reducing debuff from gaols, I'll just transpose and sit there until they run out if I'm not getting esuna/leeches. It's not like I'll be damaging anything anyways. Sure there are exceptions but for the most part it's because they are lazy, or don't know their job.

If you're not going to play your job correctly, then why should I?

Because if you are getting hit with paralysis, you more than likely weren't doing your job of dodging it. And BLMs can and should be using Spine drops?

I'm not saying Healers shouldn't be using Enusa/Leeches. But when you get hit by avoidable status, you not only cut your DPS but Healer DPS as well, which is can be more significant than not being able to use Fire 1 for a second.

[Tiggy]

Because if you are getting hit with paralysis, you more than likely weren't doing your job of dodging it. And BLMs can and should be using Spine drops?

T1/T2 as an example with bards/paladins failing to use silence would like a word with this assumption. I shouldn't have to bring an obscure item to fix a problem the healers have plenty of bandwidth to do themselves. This is just making excuses. They have plenty of power with gear and echo to heal and still cast esuna on people that the paralysis hurts the most.

It's a big generalization to just say a player shouldn't have received the debuff at all. That's ignorant of the sheer variety of ways we get debuffed in this game.

[Woggers]

Because if you are getting hit with paralysis, you more than likely weren't doing your job of dodging it. And BLMs can and should be using Spine drops?

I'm not saying Healers shouldn't be using Enusa/Leeches. But when you get hit by avoidable status, you not only cut your DPS but Healer DPS as well, which is can be more significant than not being able to use Fire 1 for a second.

Like I said in my original reply unavoidable paralysis. But I understand, reading is hard.

[Wizarus]

Like I said in my original reply unavoidable paralysis. But I understand, reading is hard.

When exactly does unavoidable paralysis occur? Usually those types of status like Melt can't be removed.

[Lemuria]

For most status effects, I'll remove them as soon as I'm able, but there are a few exceptions to this rule.

1. Poison. Some poisons are re-applied almost immediately after being removed. In such instances it's better to remove it after the fight instead of constantly spamming Esuna. These poisons tend to be low-strength so it's rarely a problem.

2. Pacify. If I'm mid-cast, then trying to Esuna Pacify is meaningless. It'll fire after the effect wears off on its own. If things are pretty slow-paced I can usually remove it very quickly since I'll see when Berserk is wearing off. Just don't rely on it.

Those are pretty much the only exceptions. Anyone not removing debuffs in any other situation is just a poor healer.

Silence is a top priority to remove, especially if it's on another healer.

The one thing i'll say here is that there are very few Silence debuffs which last long enough to Esuna. I can think of one example only, and it tends to silence EVERYONE (Wandering Palace HM) so unless the healer has Echo Drops, you're kind of screwed.

Incidentally, I've always kept a small supply of Echo drops on my healer at all times. It's a throwback from my FFXI days when you basically sucked if you didn't at least carry some with you.

[Highwilds]

As no one has mentioned yet: Please, remove Disease asap or you'll be healing that target even less than if you had forgotten Cleric's Stance on. ^_^

[Wizarus]

I actually like the Berserk Macro, lets me know exactly when to leech so we can optimize. My problem are with people who can't be bothered to dodge Status aoe, since it means I'm screwing up DPS rotation, and more than likely coming out of Cleric Stance to deal with them. If they repeatedly get hit, Leeches will be put on low prio until at least Dots are up.

[Lemuria]

Look at me , im a bad healer, because im too lazy to esuna stupid debuffs in casual content, just to finish the run 1 minute faster

Yes, yes you are. Sorry to say it, but it's kind of our job to heal people and if you're not doing that much you're not doing your job. Doesn't matter how trivial the content, ignorance breeds contempt and just leaves a sour taste in everyone's mouth.

My problem are with people who can't be bothered to dodge Status aoe, since it means I'm screwing up DPS rotation, and more than likely coming out of Cleric Stance to deal with them. If they repeatedly get hit, Leeches will be put on low prio until at least Dots are up.

Neither leeches nor Esuna are adversely affected by Cleric Stance, so I find it's rarely a problem to simply cast if regardless of which stance I'm in. If they're taking damage, that's a different matter, but status effects are plane sailing.