Is there some unspoken rule to not use Esuna/Leech?

[Alberel]

At lower level there's very little content that even has effects that can be cured. By the time such effects start entering play most new healers have forgotten they even have the skill to remove them.

The worst one is Titan with the determination debuff that gets applied with the gaols. So many healers are oblivious to it and since it doesn't make the player's HP drop they don't think they need to do anything about it. I've even seen healers with the debuff wondering why they can't heal anyone.

[Garnetiferous]

At lower level there's very little content that even has effects that can be cured. By the time such effects start entering play most new healers have forgotten they even have the skill to remove them.

The worst one is Titan with the determination debuff that gets applied with the gaols. So many healers are oblivious to it and since it doesn't make the player's HP drop they don't think they need to do anything about it. I've even seen healers with the debuff wondering why they can't heal anyone.

Minor correction. Healers do not have to esuna the titan hm gaol debuff from other healers. Because the debuff is actually DAMAGE down not DETERM down. They fixed the translation a while back.

[Sove92]

One battle where it makes sense to not remove a debuff is Battle on the Big Bridge, where not removing the confusion stops Gilgamesh from Using Mini and Toad.

[Varicose]

As long as the enemies are dying and the party is not, what's the difference?

[Bebekurenai]

As long as the enemies are dying and the party is not, what's the difference?

Exactly the mindset we are trying to fight here.

Why bother playing the job right if you can just skip and get the commendation anyways?

[Skivvy]

Oh and yes I totally agree!!! This damned berserk macro!!! I also try to make a point by NOT dispelling the debuff, see if the tank gets it.

Exactly the mindset we are trying to fight here.

Why bother playing the job right if you can just skip and get the commendation anyways?

Does not compute. In one comment you state that you purposefully ignore removing a debuff simply because the WAR is trying to be helpful with a macro, but then chide someone for their nonchalance towards healing duties.



As a side note, I'm proud of this forum for finally coming full circle. Started with the tank-hate thread, then DPS, and finally healer (although "hate" is probably a slight stretch currently for this thread). <3

[Bebekurenai]

Does not compute. In one comment you state that you purposefully ignore removing a debuff simply because the WAR is trying to be helpful with a macro, but then chide someone for their nonchalance towards healing duties.

If you read the whole post, you will get my point. I don't mind a simple macro that reminds me to remove the debuff on berserk. I personally don't need it, I pay attention, it will be done unless something more important comes up. But those 5 lined macros with multiple clings and ding dongs, starting when berserk is activated, midway when there's 10 seconds left and another when it's due... I understand there are healers who don't pay attention or don't bother, but it's annoying, not helpful, blatantly spamming and I will make my point across by not dispelling pacification.

As I see it, you don't need to tell me what you are doing or what you need with a shiny cling-cling macro, may it be your Eye for an Eye or Blunt Arrow or whatnot. Just do your job and I'll do mine.

[Skivvy]

If you read the whole post, you will get my point. I don't mind a simple macro that reminds me to remove the debuff on berserk. I personally don't need it, I pay attention, it will be done unless something more important comes up. But those 5 lined macros with multiple clings and ding dongs, starting when berserk is activated, midway when there's 10 seconds left and another when it's due... I understand there are healers who don't pay attention or don't bother, but it's annoying, not helpful, blatantly spamming and I will make my point across by not dispelling pacification.

As I see it, you don't need to tell me what you are doing or what you need with a shiny cling-cling macro, may it be your Eye for an Eye or Blunt Arrow or whatnot. Just do your job and I'll do mine.

Well, unless you actually say something to them about their macro, they'll probably continue thinking they are doing their healers a favor. Most people don't make macros to be annoying on purpose. It's amazing how many annoyances within a community can be solved with just a little communication.

[Lilyarel]

As long as the enemies are dying and the party is not, what's the difference?

I explained it my original post.... A Paralysis can screw over casters by constantly interrupting their spells and lead to death by being stunned in an AOE. A slow is self explanatory. Removing these debuffs help the DPS and everyone else do their jobs faster. Theres no reason to not purge them.

[Asierid]

As long as the enemies are dying and the party is not, what's the difference?

Why even fight the enemies? Let's just let them live in peace and sit around town instead, it's easier that way.