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  1. #111
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    Ymal's Avatar
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    Y'mal Dajeen
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I know how annoying most debuffs are for all Jobs and how hard it can impact dps, so even if I'm constantly dpsing as Healer I still esuna every debuff I see, insta cast and cost pretty much nothing. Going as SCH in instances lower than 40 is awful though, just staring at those debuffs and you know the person expects a leeche ... _´□`」 ∠):_

    Obviously there is an importance order when it comes to everything about healing, but if a lvl50 doesn't know that then they have a problem. There are some debuff that don't need removal in some situation but that's all about learning the instance and mobs abilities.
    I give my best when I play even if I'm not the greatest player, I'm expecting the others to do the same, but of course it rarely ever happens.
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  2. #112
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    Mirta Wake
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    my reasoning:

    will taking the time to remove a debuf end up in someone dying?

    if yes, people will have to live with the debuf.
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  3. #113
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    So.. you're saying that grabbing adds isn't important? or are you saying you prefer dead healers? I'm not entirely sure what it is you think isn't important.
    If pacification prevents you from grabbing adds and causes your healers to die, maybe you need to get better at WAR. The world should not be regularly going to shite in those mere 5 seconds.

    Trust me, every WAR that complains about pacification is only focused on their DPS output.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 05-12-2015 at 07:46 PM.

  4. #114
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    If pacification prevents you from grabbing adds and causes your healers to die, maybe you need to get better at WAR. The world should not be regularly going to shite in those mere 5 seconds.

    Trust me, every WAR that complains about pacification is only focused on their DPS output.
    a WAR can still use flash to grab adds so yeah, bad WAR
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  5. #115
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    If pacification prevents you from grabbing adds and causes your healers to die, maybe you need to get better at WAR. The world should not be regularly going to shite in those mere 5 seconds.

    Trust me, every WAR that complains about pacification is only focused on their DPS output.
    In regards to "High level" content where DPS phase pushing matters or farms where it's preferred? I would hope the WAR was concerned with their DPS output. especially when threads like this are still going strong

    Tanks thrown out of farms for low DPS?
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  6. #116
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    In regards to "High level" content where DPS phase pushing matters or farms where it's preferred? I would hope the WAR was concerned with their DPS output. especially when threads like this are still going strong
    i don't dispell the WAR if i am busy with healing or if i am in cleric. that would cut my own dps to dispell the WAR and would add nothing to the group-dps
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  7. #117
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    As an healer, I am the only one that decide what to esuna and when.
    On top of that, on bad situations I also can decide who can die and who not.

    If you don't like my decisions...
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  8. #118
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i don't dispell the WAR if i am busy with healing or if i am in cleric. that would cut my own dps to dispell the WAR and would add nothing to the group-dps
    You know you can cast Esuna/Leeches in Cleric Stance right?
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  9. #119
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    You know you can cast Esuna/Leeches in Cleric Stance right?
    that's not the point. the point is i can make damage instead of dispelling. or in other words: i can make damage instead of the warrior
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  10. #120
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Varicose View Post
    As long as the enemies are dying and the party is not, what's the difference?
    This guy gets it, no joke.
    With all the highly geared ppl debuffs don't really matter as the ones that are important are usually mechanic driven must be cleansed or not cleansed debuffs.
    Poison lol = slap a HoT on
    ( if its like a super poison or multiple stacks then cleanse it )
    Paralysis = shield player (i.e stoneskin them so if they get caught in an attack they'll probs survive )
    Like if someone gets para in t9
    Pacification = sure u wanna dps go for it

    If it works for dozens of ppl then there is obviously nothing wrong with it.
    Don't be calling others lazy just cuz they aren't playing the way u want them to.

    #1 rule of healer
    Do what u must to keep party alive
    Anything goes lol
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