Is there some unspoken rule to not use Esuna/Leech?

[Vrankyl]

I always use Leeches when I can, and like many other healers I follow a tier. Healers first, then tank, and then dps. There are also many other factors that go into it such as if it is about to fall off anyway I am not going to waste my time, my mp, and your time to even bother removing it because at that point it really is pointless. or for poisons as others say that get reapplied like in WP HM with the slimes.
The only other times I don't use Leeches is if you are a moron and always getting caught in avoidable aoe (especially Morbol's), or if you are the idiot who decided to pull two rooms worth of stuff and use berserk and then proceed to not use any defensive cool downs and then start pestering me by spamming your stupid pacification macro until pacification is gone when I am obviously WAY too busy trying to keep you alive because again you didn't use cool downs. Btw normally I have no problem with the macro it is a nice heads up, but please for the love of all don't spam it.

Any other time that Leeches/Esuna isn't use when it can't be, well someone is doing it wrong. *cough*WoD*cough*

[dayspring83]

I have lost count of all the times I seen healers just stand there an ignore status effects they can remove. So whats the deal? Why do they absolutely refuse to remove debuffs? If the tank is dying then thats fine. I can understand that. But if everything is comfortable and you have plenty of mana, why not? A slow slows down the whole party because less dps = slower clears. The same can be said for paralysis. The stun can proc right inside of an AOE and kill the person making the team lose even more DPS and making you waste more mana because you were stingy about who to help.

I've been playing as a healer lately and I remove every debuff I can. So whats the deal?

Don't generalize. Bad players are bad players. End of thread.

[Galaktica]

Maybe I'm just lucky and getting grouped with the right people because 99% of the time, I could swear this isn't even the issue.

Either way, assuming the battle isn't too hectic, why not just speak up as soon as you see this happen the first time? "Hey, just a heads up, you can dispell X! Keep an eye out for it!" or something...or anything along those lines...

It's better than saying nothing and if they listen, you've just helped them improve and insured a better experience for their future party members. #grouphug

[Fynlar]

If a WAR OT is maintaining DPS output to push phases and gets pacified before adds spawn that 5 seconds that you didn't spend to leeches could very well be the difference between a successful run and a wipe.

Oh, please.

I hate to break it to you, but you're not that important.

[Ryel]

Oh, please.

I hate to break it to you, but you're not that important.

So.. you're saying that grabbing adds isn't important? or are you saying you prefer dead healers? I'm not entirely sure what it is you think isn't important.

Its really as simple as this:

A Pacified tank (WAR) cannot grab adds, nor can they tank swap for mechanics that necessitate it. I'll give you one guess as to who those adds are going to make a run for though while your warriors are asking for that esuna/leeches.

Your Healers

[seida]

So.. you're saying that grabbing adds isn't important? or are you saying you prefer dead healers? I'm not entirely sure what it is you think isn't important.

Its really as simple as this:

A Pacified tank (WAR) cannot grab adds, nor can they tank swap for mechanics that necessitate it. I'll give you one guess as to who those adds are going to make a run for though while your warriors are asking for that esuna/leeches.

Your Healers

Sure, on a rare occasion like that I would try, but chances are I would still be in the middle of casting something, as I generally don't stand around doing nothing.

Maybe you could also consider putting off using beserk if it will result in you not being able to grab important adds? It's 5 seconds!

[Cyrus-Wallace]

Outside of raid content, I'll leech everything but low-damage poison. Eos/Selene will take care of healing through that. I luv my fairies <3

[M0xie]

I think Pacification is its own issue. Maybe the healer is in the middle of a cast when your Pacification lands. By the time it's over, your Pacification has 1 second left. A missed Esuna on Pacification usually means it was just bad timing. Yes I know that 5 seconds could mean a lot to you but if I'm doing anything at all except standing around, it will likely get missed. We all know that just standing there is also bad.

I always try to Esuna everything if I can spare the GCD and/or everyone's in good shape, even if I look like a dumbass when it doesn't work. I do feel that's part of a healer's job although I also think it's dumb that other pure casters don't have a dispell!

[Saseal]

I always try to Esuna everything if I can spare the GCD and/or everyone's in good shape, even if I look like a dumbass when it doesn't work.

Don't worry, I do the same if I'm not 100% sure about the particular debuff or confused it with another

[myahele]

So.. you're saying that grabbing adds isn't important? or are you saying you prefer dead healers? I'm not entirely sure what it is you think isn't important.

Its really as simple as this:

A Pacified tank (WAR) cannot grab adds, nor can they tank swap for mechanics that necessitate it. I'll give you one guess as to who those adds are going to make a run for though while your warriors are asking for that esuna/leeches.

Your Healers

I doubt that scenario happens too often and unless you're new to a trial, knowingly using berserk when you know the adds phase is near is just a bad move.

Also, you can use flash

In the end, most healers priority is healing tanks> then other dps > pacification. And by the time healers are done casting a cure/physick there's really no reason cast esuna on a tank with pacification.