Give PLD In-Combat Raise? (3.0?)

[radioactive_lego]

Hi,
Would giving PLD an in-combat raise be too OP?

My feeling is that it would give some parties a more realistic "second chance" if a healer got dropped, by allowing the PLD to:
/ac "Hallowed Ground"
/ac "Raise" <2> (assuming 4-man pt)

In other words, if the healer dies in the first 1/2 of the fight (doom, lag, random attacks, things the tank has no control over, etc.) this might help against an all-but-guaranteed wipe.

Thoughts?

[Spoekes]

I wouldn't say it would be overpowerd.

I'd rather say it would be very boring to get a level 50+ upgrade (everyones hoping to get spectacular additions!) that is a combat ress...
On top of that boredom it is a skill that is only usefull when someone f's up, and combined with HG it sacrifices your god mode CD too, just to do something healers can do at level 20.. mmh..

I would love to see PLD get more holy magic stuff, but in other ways.

[Reynhart]

Easier suggestion.
Remove the useless CNJ trait that enable battle raise.

[radioactive_lego]

Easier suggestion.
Remove the useless CNJ trait that enable battle raise.

seems legit.

[wicked-one]

I wait for the first PLD which get spellspeed on their gear for Stoneskin and Raise in Raids....

[Rhaja]

I can honestly think of several times where if PLD could raise it would have been very boss. Someone drops you can do a quick tank swap, let the PLD raise, and then replenish with some Riot blade before taking back over. If PLD's cure was also more... useful it would give PLD's more to do while OTing. WAR's OT by debuffing and damage, PLD's OT by taking some strain off the healers.

[Steady]

I just want to go on record to saying, I don't care if Paladin gets in combat raise ability :P.

Can't hurt nothing. If summoner can do it, why not Paladin. Might help make up for their lackluster "Cure".

[Dererk]

No.


The PLD's job is to tank not keep people up that's the healers responsibility old used to have a spell in 1.0 that if used on another person they get bk the same hp just give them this back but make it a cool down. No way should a pld have to raise some body better things to use for the limited cross class skills.

[Steady]

No.


The PLD's job is to tank not keep people up that's the healers responsibility old used to have a spell in 1.0 that if used on another person they get bk the same hp just give them this back but make it a cool down. No way should a pld have to raise some body better things to use for the limited cross class skills.

by that token, may as well give them a different set of cross classes.

Either they are a Paladin who can do White Magic... or they aren't. Right now they have 3 spells, only one of them useful. Why you wouldn't want them useful, is beyond me.

Hell I'm a War and I wish Featherfoot was more sexy :P. But it ain't. Gift horse << really.

[Reynhart]

No.

The PLD's job is to tank not keep people up that's the healers responsibility old used to have a spell in 1.0 that if used on another person they get bk the same hp just give them this back but make it a cool down. No way should a pld have to raise some body better things to use for the limited cross class skills.

Do you suggest they remove Raise and Physics from Arcanist since "Arcanist's job is to DPS" ?