Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with what I said or not? Yes, I know it's quicker and easier to complete the challenge log by win trading instead of doing normal matches, hence minimizing effort(time spent being effort).
I'm not sure you quite understand my dilemma. It's not a matter of minimizing effort for maximum reward. If I lose, I lose and that happens all the time in competitive and fair play. It's a matter of achieving that reward at all. I need 10 matches a week to get the challenge log. I have about 1-2 hours a night to play. IF I ignored frontlines, and queued for every single wolves den queue, and waited for 1+ hours every night, I may get one game in a night. That is not enough to get the challenge log completed. If playing 14 hours a week isn't enough to get 10 games in, there's a serious problem, because it's designed to be something easily achievable especially if you make it your focus for the week. I cannot play the game as it was designed because the queues are too long. The win trading is a last ditch effort to close the gap of SE's unintended barren queues to achieve the challenge log in a way that more closely resembles what I should be able to do given that the game was able to be played as it was designed.

Minimizing effort for maximum reward? No, I'm maximizing my effort for maximum reward - scratching and clawing for any way to get that done in the time that I have. I wasted 1.5 hours trying to set up a "win trade" two nights ago and we couldn't get it done, and people had to bail etc. etc. and I've wasted many more hours straight up queueing for Wolve's Den in hopes of completing the challenge log and having to withdraw from the queue after waiting 45m to 1 hour, because at that point I've wasted half my available time for the night doing nothing and I could have played 1 or 2 frontlines. That's what freakin kills me - trying to play SE's game and sitting around doing nothing while sitting in queue for a dead system. That's why I have absolutely no qualms about trying to "win trade" at this point, even though my attempts have been unsuccessful - I've wasted enough of my time and it's really frustrating when the whole point of playing a game is to have fun.