Wolves den challenge log impossible to achieve?

[CeveArthu]

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I'm not saying you are lying, but with 4 cumulative rank difference you will be getting insta pops, unless one of the people in the group is doing it wrong, the same system is used on midgarsormr on a daily basis without fail

Also sidenote: if you can get 8 people to do that, why win trade? why not have actual matchs instead of the cowards way?

[Geryth]

Because its faster. Matches would turn a 10 minute process into a halfhour or longer.

As mentioned above, if the queue doesn't pop in under 60~ seconds, withdraw and move some players around and try again. Both parties queue just French languange

Cumulative alone isn't all there is to consider, maybe median and range had something to do with it

I've had an attempt before where we were trying to fit a rank 8 and 12 players in and it just wouldn't work, they were too low compared to the others.

Maybe that was it - we had two players that had never done any PvP whatsoever, our level spread was Team A: 28, 14, 8, 5 and Team B: 34, 23, 1, 1. Maybe those level 1's threw it off. I guarantee we had everything else correct. Anyways, I'll see if I can get the challenge log accomplished through the Aether organized event. If I can't maybe I'll give it another stab.

Also sidenote: if you can get 8 people to do that, why win trade? why not have actual matchs instead of the cowards way?

As noted above, one team had two players that had never PvP'd before. They would not have been fair matches, but it would have been a good opportunity to teach them. Too bad the we weren't getting matched up.

[kpxmanifesto]

Also sidenote: if you can get 8 people to do that, why win trade? why not have actual matchs instead of the cowards way?

Maximizing reward while minimizing effort.

Does anyone know or suspect any win traders?

[zeopower6]

Maximizing reward while minimizing effort.

Does anyone know or suspect any win traders?

Uh, most people do that because it's quick and there may not be enough time to fulfill the challenge log with normal matches. I mean, if matches were easier to come by, I'm sure people would avoid it, but for the most part, people leveling do win trading and I don't really think that's an issue at all given the state of Wolves' Den currently.