Wolves den challenge log impossible to achieve?

[aerialrave]

I have 2 blunt pieces of advice to give you upfront that you might not want to hear.
(1) Cheat with Win Trades in Wolves' Den
(2) Drop Adders and switch to another GC

Wolves' Den is completely dead. Cheating with Win Trades is your only hope. I was like you for a little while waiting in long queues. But as time went on, the quality of my fights decreased, the queue length increased, and my patience went down the toilet. Like most people I just gave up trying. It's sad because I was pretty active in Wolves' Den during that period before Frontlines came out, and I met some cool people and there were so many people in my server decked out in those shiny i90 pieces with overmelded materia that I wished I could be like. No one takes it seriously anymore though. Nowadays Wolves' Den is only used for Win Trade cheating and pre-organized events (not random pick up game queues). It doesn't even matter anymore because Frontlines gives way more PVP exp. That's another reason why Wolves' Den died, because the rewards just aren't worth it anymore, especially because of the time wasted in queue. The only reason to even bother with this is because of the Challenge Log.

Forget about playing with your FC, and don't worry about searching for a new one over this either, most FCs are like that anyway with a few people interested in PVP. What you do need to find though is a PVP LS. Sadly Wolves' Den LS'es are virtually non existent either, depending on your server. But you can still find people to play Frontlines with. If you can get 8 Active people in that LS you can start organizing your own Win Trades or even defer to Party Finder to fill in the gaps.

If you're having trouble with Frontlines, I'll tell you straight up right now to quit Adders. Although I'm on a different server, I'm on the same data center as you (Aether) and I'll tell you right now that the Adders scene is completely dead. I'll tell you that I'm not sorry for them at all though, because I remember when Frontlines first came out Adders were winning quite a bit. Now they are on the short end of the stick and Storms are winning all the time. It seems like a ton of people jumped ship from both Adders AND Flames into Storms. Of course the main reason is "front running" / "jump on the bandwagon" for free wins. But I'm sure another genuine reason is because the GC Gear that you can get with Hunt seals just look way nicer in Storms. That may sound strange if you're not into glamour, but objectively speaking most people will tell you that the Storms GC gear looks the nicest and is actually a contributing factor.

I'd hate to tell you to jump on the bandwagon also, but if you want to rank up your PVP this is sadly the fastest way to do it. It's really really sad because if everyone takes this advice, everyone will queue as Storms and the queue will die with no one willing to play for the other teams. If you do decide to do it, don't be discouraged about the GC rank-up grind. It's far less time than all the time you actually wasted in queue for other things like Wolves' Den.

I'm also really sad to tell you there are no real good solutions in sight. This forum is largely ignored even though I've seen some good suggestions here once in a while. It's also quite discouraging to have read this thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-not-happening

So there's not much you can do at the moment. The PVP scene in this game is not good right now. And it's quite sad that the expansion probably won't make it any better.

[CeveArthu]

Wolves' Den is completely dead.

Aether has 2 events every week where you can easily get 50-100 matches in, Midgarsormr also has pvp groups running pretty much daily

[Geryth]

Aether has 2 events every week where you can easily get 50-100 matches in, Midgarsormr also has pvp groups running pretty much daily

Do you know the event details or how to find the information? Maybe my google-foo is off or I'm just dumb but I can't seem to find anything.

Edit: Don't know why I could find this thread the first search: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...lo-queue-event

Looks like they do it every Friday night at 8pm. I'll try that this week.

So I actually found a PvP linkshell and we got 8 players to try to win trade in Wolves Den. We really didn't want to go that route, but it was just a last ditch attempt to get Wolves Den games in for the challenge log. We did all the tricks by evening out the PvP ranks (within 5 points total on both teams), picked an obsure language etc. etc. and after waiting for 15 minutes we just gave up and went back to front lines. So maybe they fixed that but at this point it feels like there's nothing I can do to get the wolves den challenge log completed. Which is a real shame because without those weekly challenge logs it will take me a lot longer to get rank up.

But coming to such a conclusion should tell SE something - PvP has to change because we can't play the game the way it was meant to so getting PvP exp takes longer than what was intended. They need to fix this.

[Xenosan]

SNIP

Did you split your parties based on PVP rank? Won't work if you don't

You have to average everyone's PVP rank level. If the average rank of the two parties is not similar, you won't be matched together.

Grab some paper and pen and math out everyone's rank, split into 2 parties so that your average is close, the queues will be instant.

[Geryth]

Did you split your parties based on PVP rank? Won't work if you don't

You have to average everyone's PVP rank level. If the average rank of the two parties is not similar, you won't be matched together.

Grab some paper and pen and math out everyone's rank, split into 2 parties so that your average is close, the queues will be instant.

We did that, our cumulative PvP ranks were 55 and 59 for each party (was closest it could be). After 15 minutes of the queue not popping we gave up.