Thread: About WoD all DPS in stomach.

I hate the idea.

When I'm dps i hate going in because i don't wanna get unlucky and killed by Unknown.
When I'm healer i hate this idea because i don't wanna raise a dead dps flushed out of doggie's belly.
((When I'm tank, well it's none of my business. But generally speaking, dead dps = less damage = longer wait = more chance to mess up = potential wipe))

So yeah.

And quite frankly, it doesn't really speed up the phase by a whole lot. And alas, wolfsbane will go wild outside of belly.

Don't have a suggestion or solution to this, but when I'm tanking, I usually go in belly along with many DPS and tank the Unknown while DPS are killing stomach. Might pop a couple CD but it's worth it. No dead DPS, everyone's happy.

The Unknown is such a problem when you have a bad 3rd off tank... which is pretty often. There are some decent work arounds, however. The Unknowns are susceptible to CC mechanics. As BRD, for example, I can Bind them if I need to. I rarely get to go in when I'm SCH though, since I tend to be in MT group, so I can't remember if Miasma II heavy works on them.

Most WoD groups I get in are all in DPS. It usually works out well, maybe 1 dead DPS on average while in the belly, since its normal that a tank doesn't follow (which they should have done). I'm noticing more often though that at least one of the OTs will be good about picking up Wolfsbane adds... which is more important at least. Good on you to head in when you tank, as it does help reduce problems... I'm hoping the other OT is picking up the adds outside though lol.

There is quite a lot of failing in WoD so it is hard to compare methods simply because the reason either of them fail is due to the people executing it not the actual strategy.

If all DPS go in, the stomach is killed quicker (3x quicker in theory) and that means everyone outside quicker to deal with adds, less uptime for adds outside and a quicker overall kill of Cerberus. I have never even seen anyone die to an Unknown before in there so you must have some pretty awful people to be that slow when you go all in.

If one party goes in its generally slower (longer time inside means more dot ticks on your debuff inside higher chances of failing) but you have more people outside to deal with adds the issue I have with this is if the off tanks don't grab the adds when you go all in, they are not going to grab the adds when only 1 group goes in anyway so in my case every time I go to attack adds outside the stomach I end up dying because all the other tanks are not pulling them anyway.

Due to this in theory it is most safest if ONLY DPS go in, if all DPS go inside then the stomach should die very quickly, this leaves 2 off tanks to take the adds and all 6 healers outside to heal, there is absolutely no reason for ANYONE to die in that situation. But since most off tanks are there just for a free ride the adds outside wont get picked up regardless of if all or just one party go in. Not to mention if you are stupid you can easily get knocked back by them into the slabber pool and get killed so less people outside = less chances of people dying stupidly.

People failing Cerberus isn't strategy it's just simply people failing to do their jobs appropriately.

Why not just do "all DPS + 1 tank"? There's no point having 2 off-tanks outside. Is there a reason why both off-tanks would remain outside?

In the JP data center it's always party A in the stomach. The JP data center generally have the safer and more straight-forward strategies as the standard, it seems.