Thread: 2.55 Main Scenario Requirement.

Originally Posted by Stjevne

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I think the issue is not people playing this game for different reasons but complaining about this game for being a story-driven MMO and locking content out behind it. Like, it's a Final Fantasy game and they take a different development course compared to other MMOs or so they try. This idea of locking out content behind the expansion is nothing new at all. People are free to skip every cs and finish the MSQ in no time. I wouldn't care, it's their choice. But if you don't like the story, that's up to you, now asking the dev team to remove the condition of finishing the main story because you (And I don't mean specially "you") don't like it or you think it's tedious, it's a different thing.

Heck, it's not like they don't receive anything by doing the MSQ post Praetorium! Maybe it's not a smooth transition but we don't even know if the MSQ quests will be adjusted to give experience as well! They also unlock several trials and dungeons that will be still useful post 50. The new guys will complain if they need to. No need to be a white knight for a thing that we don't know if it will be an issue. It's silly. Now it brings me back memories... I remember didn't like to level up a different class in WoW when WotLK was out because I was unable to create a Death Knight if I didn't have a level 50+ character... but you know what? the reward for all these efforts was to play the class I liked. Ya, I didn't like it back then, but that was the dev's team decision and I learned to respect that. If people want to act like an spoiled kid because they didn't get the job they wanted as they started this game, I'm so sorry...

Finally, all the content behind the Ishgard gates are intended for level 50+ characters. Even the most lame monster will one-shot you if you go with a lowbie. Even Yoshi-p said the expansion will hold more "world danger", so all the previous content comes in preparation for that.

Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

Now it brings me back memories... I remember didn't like to level up a different class in WoW when WotLK was out because I was unable to create a Death Knight if I didn't have a level 50+ character....

Bad analogy. Imaging if you had to do every quest in every area in Kalmidor, Eastern Kingdoms, Outland and the associated dungeons and raids with the story. Then get to level 70 and go to Northrend to start a DK.

I really enjoy the msq but after doing 2.0 to 2.55 one right after another I found myself not caring about it as much. It was designed to do over time as it was released and not one right after the other which is how people are going to be doing it now. There is a lot that can be pruned with out ruining the integrity of the story to speed it up.
I am not suggesting removing the ilvl requirements or event the trials.

Originally Posted by SDaemon

That is a very horrible comparison if you are trying to compare it to having to complete the MSQ for access to HW content. The sheer number of quests in difference between XIV's MSQ and WoW 3 continents worth of quests is tremendous!

Actually it is a fair comparison and it is exactly what you are asking new players to do. Basically to get to level 50 and to do the msq you are going to be doing every quest available and even after reaching 50 you are put on hold until you do a lot of extra stuff. Until you do those things you will be unable to utilize any of the new expansion that a new player just purchased with the exception on the new race.
At least with WoW you were not forced to do anything other than meet the level requirements so you can skip content. With SE's plan there will be no skipping.

How is comparing 100 quests to thousands even remotely the same? Azshara's quest achievement alone has as many quests as the Astral story-line and its just 1 zone on just 1 of the 3 continents you are comparing it to!

Basically to get to level 50 you do the main story line, a few dungeons and a hand full of the many side quests if needed. If you do every quest in the game on top of running a dungeon for the first time and the MSQ you are over-killing by leaps and bounds.

Once you hit 50 you have 100 story quests that can be completed very quickly. The only time consuming parts to the Astral story line are the few dungeons and trials you have to do, and its not even close to all the dungeons and trials available in the game.

Your comparison was horrible, its like comparing a lake to the ocean. Yeah, they are both bodies of water but the sheer size difference is enormous.

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

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Anyways, I truly believe that the 2.0 questline is good, but I really think they need to re-evaluate the 2.01 to 2.55 requirement for the new zones.
Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.

Not including the 25 or so intro area quests before you're turned loose on the rest of Eorzea, there are 155 Main Scenario quests. There are a total of 100 more to get to the end of 2.55. All told those 100 go pretty damned quickly as long as you don't pick up any side quests.

If anything the level 39 - 50 part of it is the worst for grinding because most of the time you have to stop and grind out levels in Fates/leves so you can even qualify for the next MSQ.

Not to mention I am not sure they will be gaining XP after they hit level 50, until they get to the new content? WE couldn't so why should they.

Originally Posted by T2teddy

Not to mention I am not sure they will be gaining XP again until they get to the new content? WE couldn't so why should they.

Ok, wow... can't believe I read that. Whether or not you agree with all the level 50 quests, why in the world would you not give leveling players xp? lol. You can't seriously expect a new player to level all the way to 50 and then do 100 non-xp quests before starting level 51 xp quests? That's just dumb! If you don't give new players xp for a hundred quests this game would be dead in a couple of years due to lack of new players reaching level cap...

I've read some faulty logic replies in this thread, but that one takes the cake. Time to take a break from this debate once again....