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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    It was also clarified that the new jobs are available at level 30. So completion of 2.55 to access the new jobs doesn't sound like a requirement any longer.
    The new jobs are going to start at level 30. Rogue starts at level 1 but you had to complete the level 10 quest for your current class in order to play as it. As well since the three new jobs are in Ishgard, which you can only get into via completing the 2.55 story, you have to be level 50+ to start as them.
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    Yaelle Portelaine
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    Famfrit
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    The new jobs are going to start at level 30.
    I must have read it wrong. I thought it was available not starting.
    After grinding 2.0 to 2.55 I think they need to streamline it. Towards the end it quickly became monotonous and not much fun.
    The majority of people that say it isn't a problem did the quest's as they were released not one chain after another in a few days or a weekend
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    Rende Crow
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    The majority of people that say it isn't a problem did the quest's as they were released not one chain after another in a few days or a weekend
    Good luck doing it in only a few days or a weekend as a new player! O.o When I said the quest chain only takes 6 hours or so, that's assuming you have ilvl 90 gear. If you have to grind out the gear and do extra raids (like crystal tower) it very well could take weeks for someone to get ilvl 90 gear and clear the quest chain. Especially since not as many people will be playing the old content and queue times for dungeons and raids will go up. As a dps I already wait 10 to 15 minutes for trials, 20 minutes for raids, and sometimes 40 minutes for dungeons. Those queue times will probably double when no one is doing them....
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    Last edited by Rendecrow; 05-12-2015 at 06:14 AM.

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    Rende Crow
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerialrave View Post
    Note that the Binding Coil of Bahamut, Crystal Tower arc, Hildibrand Story, Extreme Primals, and even the Relic quest is completely optional and will not be required for Heavensward. There is a ton of content available that isn't all that easy for new players that COULD have been required to play Heavensward, but they're not. All that's required is the Main Scenario Quest and I don't think that's too much to ask for.
    Did I not just post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Good luck doing it in only a few days or a weekend as a new player! O.o When I said the quest chain only takes 6 hours or so, that's assuming you have ilvl 90 gear. If you have to grind out the gear and do extra raids (like crystal tower) it very well could take weeks for someone to get ilvl 90 gear and clear the quest chain. Especially since not as many people will be playing the old content and queue times for dungeons and raids will go up. As a dps I already wait 10 to 15 minutes for trials, 20 minutes for raids, and sometimes 40 minutes for dungeons. Those queue times will probably double when no one is doing them....
    Everything but story is optional??? huh? I don't think so.
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    Last edited by Rendecrow; 05-12-2015 at 06:35 AM.

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    Jessie Belle
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Everything but story is optional??? huh? I don't think so.
    I don't understand why you want to condense the entire 2.0 storyline into one weekend. In the past it's been agreed upon that the 2.0 storyline up to Ultima Weapon was supposed to be 1 full month's worth of casual content.
    Please explain, because I really don't understand you. This is a subscription game, and you're not meant to clear all the content in just one weekend. There is 0 need to do Crystal Tower or anything else. When 2.0 was the latest patch, there was no Crystal Tower. In fact there were no dungeons passed Amdapor Keep (normal mode), and everyone was running Wanderer's Palace (normal mode). i70 is way more than enough to clear it. It's a fact that Praetorium was designed to be cleared in AF Gear (i50-55) without regard to accessories/jewelry. THAT IS WHY THERE IS NO iLVL REQUIREMENT TO QUEUE FOR IT.

    From there on (2.1 -> 2.5 quests) the ilvl requirements rise steadily but not sharply, the player is meant to progress in gear as they progress in content. That is basic design theory and I think it's fine the way it is. As I stated, only Chrysalis and Steps have ilvl90 requirements and are the only potential stumbling blocks for new players. Even then, Soldiery tomes are not time gated and one can farm up i100 gear quite quickly and easily just doing random things. If you've forgotten, there is something called a First Time Bonus WHICH IS EVEN GIVEN TO YOU FOR YOUR OWN FIRST TIME. Just playing through the content normally will gear you up plenty to complete up to 2.5.

    Gear is not an excuse, and neither is long queue times. Old dungeons will be played forever thanks to the Roulette system (and the relic quest which forces you to repeat them). As stated already, you can always use Party Finder.
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