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    Peachy's Avatar
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    Pichichi Pichi
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    There is a big difference between the "plot" and what is practical for the players. For instance if you really wanted to make everything realistic then every time you die you should reroll a new toon. Also we have teleportation everywhere but in the "plot" characters constantly talk about travel time? Makes no sense. Just some food for thought....
    If we were doing that Au ra would be gated as well because of the events in the main story, they would either change some lines of dialog to make sense or just file it under those other things you said like teleporting, character age VS in game time that has passed, raising dead people.

    But on topic I don't think it will be too much of an issue if the quest density for lvling is that much, we will obviously need more xp per lvl, and just add xp to those quests. You already have to do them in order, if they add progressively higher xp amounts to the 2.1-2.55 story it doesn't really matter what lvl the quest is listed at.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    The problem is though, even if a player can access these areas prior to completion of the 2.55 story quests they won't be able to do much there due to the dungeons and flying being gated behind the 3.0 main scenario quests. The onyl thing they'll be able to do is grind fates on whatever small sections of the map are accessible without a flying mount.

    This is what people are trying to explain to the OP. The way content gating and character progression is designed in this game has everything tied into the main story. Allowing players to skip any previous main story quests would leave them without access to important gameplay features and content. Allowing them access to 3.0 areas without having the 3.0 main story quests available would leave them unable to progress in those areas. Even if the OP's suggestion were implemented in some fashion, new players would STILL have to complete all of the story quests anyway in order to unlock access to other things.
    Thats not entirely true though. I dont know why anyone would want to play a game like this and skip everything but its possible to make a new character and do none of the main story once outside of the starting instance. You can even choose to walk everywhere instead of unlocking teleport. Most sidequests are only gated by lvl so you can do them and fates to 50. You can even get to/from limsa without unlocking the airship by using a fc house aetheryte (Ive done this with alts).

    I pretty much agree with you and think OP is over reacting and white knighting players hes never met but I dont think the entire expansion is gated, even if it makes no sense to struggle in new areas, some want to explore on day 1 and I think thats the general disappointment we are hearing. I for one will play ALL of it and love it lol.
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    Last edited by Peachy; 05-12-2015 at 01:03 AM.

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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Peachy View Post
    Thats not entirely true though. I dont know why anyone would want to play a game like this and skip everything but its possible to make a new character and do none of the main story once outside of the starting instance. You can even choose to walk everywhere instead of unlocking teleport. Most sidequests are only gated by lvl so you can do them and fates to 50. You can even get to/from limsa without unlocking the airship by using a fc house aetheryte (Ive done this with alts).
    And what content beside a handfull sidequests and FATEs are accessable at 50 if you skip all mainstory quests?
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    Rende Crow
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    Malboro
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    And what content beside a handfull sidequests and FATEs are accessable at 50 if you skip all mainstory quests?
    Nothing! But that is the beauty of it!

    If those zones were open before 2.55, then the people grinding 2.0 to 2.55 are going to feel less confined and controlled! Even though they are doing the story quests they will be in a better mood because they will feel like they have a choice instead of simply being forced to grind level 50 content. It's a human nature / psychological element that I think people are missing about the issue of the current gating design! Right now the gate could make some new players (or returning old players) feel negative and frustrated. Simply opening up those zones makes people feel more positive even though they still got to do the hundred or so level 50 quests to do anything relevant in those zones.

    Does that make any sense? Or am I just way off? lol
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    Last edited by Rendecrow; 05-12-2015 at 03:05 AM.