2.55 Main Scenario Requirement.

**EdwinLi** · 05-11-2015 01:37 AM

While 3.0 is linked to 2.0 to 2.X, I wouldn't mind if SE one day made a future X.0 Main Story a stand alone storyline.

As interesting as the whole Warrior of Light, Oh mighty Savior, Chosen One, Champion of the Just, and etc. titles is pushed on us, a Main Storyline that focus on our character being actual adventurers would be nice for once.

They could alter some dialogues for this stand alone X.0 Main Storyline based on if we performed 2.0 to X.0, or how far we reached through 2.0 to X.0, like they did with the Legacy players in 2.0.

**Cyrus-Wallace** · 05-11-2015 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Calis

And I think it's pretty cool that they catered to people who care about story. This is one of the few story-driven mmos, and if you care and like the story, then you're surely to enjoy what 2.1-2.5 has to offer. If you don't, you can skip all the cutscenes, rush through all the content and be done with all that in about 6 hours or so.

Fix'd.

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@Ontopic, not related to this quote above.

Yoshi-p stated this "condition" several weeks ago. People had/have enough time to catch up. Returning players had/have enough time to come back and catch up. New players had/have enough time to buy the game and run through all that content and catch up. The only thing that is actually locked, it's the jobs, and I understand that concern. However, these will start at level 30. So, even if they weren't locked, you might still need to create a pre-expac job and level it up to level 30 before you could use it. That's 20 levels of difference only, which can be attained real quick.

All the content post-expact is intended for level 50+ characters, so new players won't be able to get there even if everything was available at launch without the 2.0 story completion pre-requisite. Existing players can just play the game and either enjoy the story or rush through it. The expansion is not an "alternative game", it's a continuation of the existing game. Being this game a story-driven MMO, it super makes sense that you have to complete the main-story in order to progress. As you cannot beat either Shiva, Ramuh or do Steps of Faith if you don't do the MSQ. What's the problem with that? Somebody grinded his classes up to level 50 by doing FATEs? Damn, I envy that non-existing expert/high level/trial/story roulette or these dungeons which may be requiered for certain quest (think, future relic questlines).

Instead of just complaining about it, just go and finish the MSQ so you're ready for Heavensward. You have 1 month and 13 days left. Even the most casuals of the player should be able to catch up at this point of time.

**Rendecrow** · 05-11-2015 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

Fix'd.
Yoshi-p stated this "condition" several weeks ago. People had/have enough time to catch up. Returning players had/have enough time to come back and catch up. New players had/have enough time to buy the game and run through all that content and catch up.

Ok, so what about new players a month from now? You didnt really think that through, did you?

**Dhex** · 05-11-2015 04:07 AM

If you're so worried for new players (who don't exist yet) getting access to HW content - help them out. Make yourself available to them - why are you on the forum complaining about a non-existant problem you as a veteran can fix? Seriously it's an MMO - be social, be helpful.

It doesn't hurt all that bad I promise.

**Dualblade** · 05-11-2015 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

Ok, so what about new players a month from now? You didnt really think that through, did you?

New players would not have done anything game wise and thus would have alot to catch up on anyways, if not being able to play the three new jobs immediatly/the moment they get to level 30 is that big a break they probably don't care quite that much about other factors as well (Story for example) and indeed the game might not be for them. As well they will certainly be able to level still even after completing the 2.0 story if they have Heavensward and most likely will be around lvl 53 by the time Steps comes in, which even if they don't do any nerfs will still make things a bit easier on them.

Originally Posted by Dhex

If you're so worried for new players (who don't exist yet) getting access to HW content - help them out. Make yourself available to them - why are you on the forum complaining about a non-existant problem you as a veteran can fix? Seriously it's an MMO - be social, be helpful.

It doesn't hurt all that bad I promise.

This as well, as it is right now we do not know what/if there will be a problem (partly because we aren't too the xpac yet, partly because we don't know if 2.57 will do some nerfs to the biggest wall currently), but even if it is nerfed nothing is stopping you or any of us from going out and helping out newbies except what we feel like doing.

**SpookyGhost** · 05-11-2015 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

Its simple. Let the 51+ zones be accessible to everyone.

Have you read the story?

**Tiggy** · 05-11-2015 04:23 AM

This thread lol. This is a story focused mmo. Time to learn to deal with it or find a less story focused game. I know people who hit 50 two weeks ago and finished all the extended story in less than a week. This thread just seems like a giant whine fest to justify being too lazy to just play the game.

**Niadissa** · 05-11-2015 06:33 AM

Easy solution to the gating problem / leveling up problem. Cut down on the filler "fetch" quests in the MSQ. You will still have the mandatory story dungeons. the only other solution is to continue as it is currently and only offer quest rewards and gil for completing MSQ. If you do not, then no matter what happens a new player trying to catch up to the current content will be over level for all of the 51+ quests, unless the Xp required to go from 50 to 51 is insanely high.

As it stands though, I expect from the length of time that this has been in development, that SE has probably thought of this already and has plans in place already to make it keep in line with normal character progression. All we can really do at this point is wait and see. Then judge based on what is actually put in place.

**Spawnie** · 05-11-2015 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.

no new players are gonna be enjoying a new game they havent tried b4.. not O NO I CANT GET DARK KNIGHT RIGHT AWAY!!!!!! seriously topics like these are so old nows ._.

**Gralna** · 05-11-2015 07:04 AM

Only time consuming factor of the 2.0-2.55 MS I can see is all of the duties/trials you have to do, they're dated content and the queues can be quite long, especially on dps. However devs have already hinted at a way to alleviate this, they mention in a live letter that when 3.0 goes live, you'll be able to do 2.0 duties/trials with parties that are smaller than currently required.

Honostly though, lvling up and doing the story isn't that time consuming in the scope of MMOs. I consider myself fairly casual, and I watched every cutscene, yet it only took me 23 days to beat the 2.0 storyline, and about one day to beat each of the 2.X stories. If someone really wants to rush into HW, I wouldn't be surprised if they could do it in roughly 2 weeks.

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