2.55 Main Scenario Requirement.

**Wobi** · 05-10-2015 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

Its simple. Let the 51+ zones be accessible to everyone. This hardly "damages" the game experiance for veteran players as the new players will still have to go back and do the quests to unlock the dungeons and raids.

Yet again that tosses out the main story and the very reason you were allowed to go into this new area in the first place and what drove you there. I've been waiting since 1.0 Alpha to get behind those gates, it certainly won't kill a newer player to do the same (most likely nerfed) quests to get there as well.

**Rendecrow** · 05-10-2015 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by Wobi

Yet again that tosses out the main story and the very reason you were allowed to go into this new area in the first place and what drove you there. I've been waiting since 1.0 Alpha to get behind those gates, it certainly won't kill a newer player to do the same (most likely nerfed) quests to get there as well.

Tell that to the new player who has 6 to 10+ hours of level 50 content before they can get behind those gates. Doubt they won't be a "new player" for long, but rather an "x-player".

**Teuciont** · 05-10-2015 04:59 AM

For all the bragging OP does about how experienced he is with MMOs, it sure doesn't show. Just because you found the internet before the massive migration of people in the mid 2000s did doesn't mean you suddenly have authority to throw around your weight. I've been playing MMOs just as long if not longer than you and find your opinions to be bad on a consistent basis, so please try not to pitch your opinions as fact due to your "years of experience."

And as far as the topic of the thread goes, new players will simply have to deal with it. If you constantly try and cater to the new player, you will never catch up to the people who have been playing your game for years.

**Wobi** · 05-10-2015 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

Tell that to the new player who has 6 to 10+ hours of level 50 content before they can get behind those gates. Doubt they won't be a "new player" for long, but rather an "x-player".

Anyone deterred by 10hrs of gameplay in an MMO before they get to what they are working towards would not make it very long at all in endgame. I've spent countless hours working on just one relic and I'm still working on it. They will undoubtedly nerf or ease the restrictions on quite a bit of content so if someone wanted to they could blow thru that story pretty quick. Especially if they are the type that doesn't care about the story and only the shinies.

**Heskett** · 05-10-2015 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

Tell that to the new player who has 6 to 10+ hours of level 50 content before they can get behind those gates. Doubt they won't be a "new player" for long, but rather an "x-player".

Oh my goodness freaking GRACIOUS! 6-10 hours!? How on earth will anybody be able to contribute so much time to their MMO video game?

**Allyrion** · 05-10-2015 05:04 AM

The main scenario is unlocks so much in this game, the decision makes sense.
I found the pre-50 story worse anyway because it had much more filler so that you could level mostly through the MS quests.

If those players don't like quest gating, this game isn't for them anyway because it's a clear design choice.

I think it's great that they're making post 50 content part of the vanilla leveling experience.
They can make the 50 quests give decent xp to compensate and tie into leveling. There might be ways to ease the transiton, not sure what they have in mind.

**Zohar_Lahar** · 05-10-2015 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

Tell that to the new player who has 6 to 10+ hours of level 50 content before they can get behind those gates. Doubt they won't be a "new player" for long, but rather an "x-player".

If they can't handle 6-10 hours of story content, then it would seem a story-driven MMORPG isn't for them.

**Fortified** · 05-10-2015 05:19 AM

2.57 could nerf the 2.x story quests for all we know.

I still have to finish those story quests but I have a month so it shouldn't be too bad.

**Lillia** · 05-10-2015 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.

I personally find this as a good thing, less level gap between quests for newer players. That is of course if they are going to be getting EXP while doing the old story. ;o

**Alberel** · 05-10-2015 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Rendecrow

Tell that to the new player who has 6 to 10+ hours of level 50 content before they can get behind those gates. Doubt they won't be a "new player" for long, but rather an "x-player".

You might also want to consider that Heavensward content expects players to be geared to at least i90 as well. A fresh 50 in i45-55 equipment given instant access to Ishgard or its surrounding areas would be slaughtered pretty quickly. Having them do the MSQ to unlock Ishgard will also give them a chance to gear up appropriately.

As for the gating causing players to quit; maybe YOU would quit when presented with such a scenario but I personally would enjoy having to put some time into unlocking the content. It would make it feel rewarding to finally get there. Not every new player is going to see this the way you do, so projecting your personal issues onto new players seems a little silly.

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