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    Arixtotle's Avatar
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    Masakata Izumi
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    What they really need to do is just restagger the level requirements for the MSQ. Make it so that what is currently for lvl 50 starts at lvl 45 or something of that nature. That would also give them the freedom to trim some of the non important quests from the MSQ chain.
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    Fionn Iolair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
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    Anyways, I truly believe that the 2.0 questline is good, but I really think they need to re-evaluate the 2.01 to 2.55 requirement for the new zones.
    Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.
    Not including the 25 or so intro area quests before you're turned loose on the rest of Eorzea, there are 155 Main Scenario quests. There are a total of 100 more to get to the end of 2.55. All told those 100 go pretty damned quickly as long as you don't pick up any side quests.

    If anything the level 39 - 50 part of it is the worst for grinding because most of the time you have to stop and grind out levels in Fates/leves so you can even qualify for the next MSQ.

    Not to mention I am not sure they will be gaining XP after they hit level 50, until they get to the new content? WE couldn't so why should they.
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    Last edited by T2teddy; 05-12-2015 at 12:40 PM. Reason: corrected an omission

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    Not to mention I am not sure they will be gaining XP again until they get to the new content? WE couldn't so why should they.
    Ok, wow... can't believe I read that. Whether or not you agree with all the level 50 quests, why in the world would you not give leveling players xp? lol. You can't seriously expect a new player to level all the way to 50 and then do 100 non-xp quests before starting level 51 xp quests? That's just dumb! If you don't give new players xp for a hundred quests this game would be dead in a couple of years due to lack of new players reaching level cap...

    I've read some faulty logic replies in this thread, but that one takes the cake. Time to take a break from this debate once again....
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    Last edited by Rendecrow; 05-12-2015 at 12:18 PM.

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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Ok, wow... can't believe I read that. Whether or not you agree with all the level 50 quests, why in the world would you not give leveling players xp? lol. You can't seriously expect a new player to level all the way to 50 and then do 100 non-xp quests before starting level 51 xp quests? That's just dumb! If you don't give new players xp for a hundred quests this game would be dead in a couple of years due to lack of new players reaching level cap...

    I've read some faulty logic replies in this thread, but that one takes the cake. Time to take a break from this debate once again....
    bye bye!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    bye bye!
    Im sorry, but when the discussion turns to not giving leveling players xp for 100 quests it is no longer a discussion, but rather a pointless conversation.
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Im sorry, but when the discussion turns to not giving leveling players xp for 100 quests it is no longer a discussion, but rather a pointless conversation.
    You made it pointless by ignoring most of the people's replies and cherry picking and/or taking out of context people's responses in order to give power to your "argument". Now I wonder why do you even care about it? Are you a hero choosen by all the new players that will come when the expansion is out? Are you even sure they won't make any adjustments to fix that? Like either giving these quests a small amount of exp or increase their base gil/item reward? And even if they don't, it's not like they don't give you anything in return and it's not like there's no ilvl progressiong through it, as you need to increase your ilvl to progress in that content. If Yoshi-p says your ilvl 130 gear will be still useful, it's because it's kind of dangerous to go alone with some ilvl 49 gear... and as I already mentioned, DUNGEONS, TRIALS, stuff that still will be needed for the new roulettes and maybe relic quests.

    YEAH, NEW PLAYERS DON'T GET GEARED UP THAT FAST. Even if the gear is handed out right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
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    Once again, all those of us who are currently playing and some still leveling, are getting no xp for those quests. We have to walk into Ishgard at level 50. We had to defeat Vishap at level 50 to do so. Are you suggesting its fair that nobody else will have to do the same?
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    Last edited by T2teddy; 05-12-2015 at 12:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    I'm talking about the 100 level 50 quests from 2.0 to 2.55, sorry for not making that clear. Although YOU could have asked for clarification.
    I know that is what you are talking about. You suggested that in the future new leveling players should have to do 100 level 50 quests with no xp before entering the expansion.... Thats just crazy to expect a new player to stick around through all of that.
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    Rhas Itiron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post

    Old players who didn't do it: Players like my friend who fate grinded 3 different level 50s is going to have to go back and do it.
    Fate grinded 3 characters to 50... everyone makes their own choices, but that doesn't mean the choices they made were the best ones. You still have to live with the results either way.

    Seems like your friend just wanted the "easy" route to end game and could be playing anything (including Android/iOS games which require no thought process to play whatsoever) Choosing the "easy" way doesn't mean its the "right" way, but who am I to say whats right for everyone else either ;P

    I personally prefer the long drawn out process that makes me feel a sense of pride (and/or) accomplishment... but that's me.

    I finished the story on 3 separate characters through the steps and all the fun that went along with them ;P (including all the hilibrand quests as well). I made my choices as well and don't regret mine
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    Daranion Thronir
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    Oh, thank you for the source. Was going off my memory which is obviously faulty. Well revising the theory and that makes it 1.4 million which looking at our bars is like 2 and a quarter levels. That's still a respectable amount of EXP and nothing to sneeze at. Perfect for our poor DPS friends who got screwed over would quite love it as something to do during queues.
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