Crafting (and possible Gathering) idea. :)

[KaiKatzchen]

I know most might not find this interesting due to the fact that it is, in fact, about crafting and the crafting classes… but I know I can’t be the only person who does truly enjoy the crafting aspect of this game. So last night a few friends and I were in a party, we had gone to craft and happened to all to leveling the same craft so ended up in the same place.

This made me think… I know that we have a few different versions of ‘parties’ when battling:

-1 to 3 members gives no bonus for being in a party.

-4 to 7 members in considered a light party which gives +5% max HP/MP and +5% physical/magical accuracy.

-8 members are considered a full party which gives +10% max HP/MP, and +10% physical/magical accuracy.



So I thought: Why can’t crafters get some kind of bonus if they get in a party and craft within the same area? This could be done in a few ways:

1) Everyone would have to be the same craft…yes this would be harder but who cares!

2) Everyone would just have to be on any craft and crafting within ‘x’ area of everyone else… hello crafting party!



Once we had a group of crafters (done in either of the two ways, maybe more ways if someone else thinks of one) we could get bonuses much like the battle classes do. I have two different ideas for this as well and this would give people the option to buy support or party for support. Remember these are just ideas!!!

First Idea:

Players can either go buy the support from the guild, or get it though crafting parties.

-1 to 3 crafters in a party (either all the same craft or just a craft period) would get the basic synth support automatically.

-4 to 7 crafters in a party (either all the same craft or just a craft period) would get the second tier synth support automatically.

-8 crafters in a party (either all the same craft or just a craft period) would get the master synth support automatically.

Second idea:

Crafters would get into a party (either all the same craft or a craft period) and the bonus would be based off the highest crafter in the party, for example (and this is just an example) let’s say:

-Crafter is 1 to 10 ranks above the other crafter(s) in the party then lower crafters would receive a 5% bonus (basically a form of support) to their crafting rank.

-Crafter is 10 to 20 ranks above the other crafter(s) in the party then lower crafters would receive a 10% bonus (basically a form of support) to their crafting rank.

-Crafter is 20+ ranks above the other crafter(s) in the party then lower crafters would receive a 15% bonus (basically a form of support) to their crafting rank.

The highest crafter would also receive some type of bonus for helping and supporting the other crafters lower than them during this time.



If you break this down and change all the crafting to gathering instead, it would also work in that aspect as well… since I love gathering too!


Why would this be an interesting idea?

1) It’s not always easy to get a group of crafters together that would want to do this so people would be rewarded for putting in the effort.

2) It would also support community communication since people would probably have to look outside of their LS to find people to craft with.

3) Crafters would be able to help one another, not just with the bonus, but also advice, support and encouraging once another by working together.

4) When/If SE ever puts in those big crafts they were talking about that take multi-crafters to make people would have a lot more options because they would have made relationships with many more crafters that are out there.


It’s a simple idea really, and I know not everyone is going to like it. Some might even say that ‘well it’s just the crafters so who cares’. But for the people who do enjoy crafting, they might appreciate something like this that not only gives them a bonus for working together in a field that tends to be mostly solo. But gives them a reason to reach out to other crafters and make friends…

Thank you for reading!

[koolya749_20400]

I thought about this too but then I remember the bots at the aetherites exploiting the current leve link system and gaining rank/skill just by standing there. Whats to stop people from doing this with DoH/L if such system were implemented? I think it's a great idea so long as its not something you can exploit so easily.

[KaiKatzchen]

I thought about this too but then I remember the bots at the aetherites exploiting the current leve link system and gaining rank/skill just by standing there. Whats to stop people from doing this with DoH/L if such system were implemented? I think it's a great idea so long as its not something you can exploit so easily.

Regardless of the fact if something like this is in place or not the bots and RMT will find a way to exploit in the game. As you pointed out... they already make tons of characters, get into an 8 man party and exploit the battle bonus. If we let the bots and RMTs dictate the way the game should be played and what they can or can't exploit SE would have to take everything out of the game. Then what fun would their be?

[Bigglesworth]

I thought about this too but then I remember the bots at the aetherites exploiting the current leve link system and gaining rank/skill just by standing there. Whats to stop people from doing this with DoH/L if such system were implemented? I think it's a great idea so long as its not something you can exploit so easily.

I'm thinking right now of the Children of the Corn Lalafel parties

[DoctorMog]

Where is group crafting in general?

They DID say that players could team up to make cakes, boats etc...

[Deminia]

I actually would love to see some way to add group crafting. Why not make crafting leves linkable just like fighting leves? Increase the numbers of required synths during the leve to match something appropriate to the party size and give a party bonus for completion.

In order to prevent a crafting party from turning into a 1 person show with several others sitting around soaking up the free synths, perhaps the synths could be randomly assigned to every player in the group - so if there are 12 synths and 2 people in the party, then each player would still have to make 6 synths - but both players would get completion credits for all 12 items. I liked the above suggestion of granting some sort of crafting party buff as well.

[KaiKatzchen]

I actually would love to see some way to add group crafting. Why not make crafting leves linkable just like fighting leves? Increase the numbers of required synths during the leve to match something appropriate to the party size and give a party bonus for completion.

In order to prevent a crafting party from turning into a 1 person show with several others sitting around soaking up the free synths, perhaps the synths could be randomly assigned to every player in the group - so if there are 12 synths and 2 people in the party, then each player would still have to make 6 synths - but both players would get completion credits for all 12 items. I liked the above suggestion of granting some sort of crafting party buff as well.

That would be cool too!!!

Where is group crafting in general?

They DID say that players could team up to make cakes, boats etc...

I agree... if I remember correctly they said they were still going too (or were thinking if still doing it), but at this time it wasn't on the top of the list. I hope they still put it in as well.

[Zuellni]

I would love to see party-based crafts like houses, boats and cakes be implemented whether there are buffs or not. But the buffs and incentives are definitely an awesome idea. It would sure help alleviate the cost of getting those final ranks in.

Another idea I had, which would be better when there's LS housing or some sort of rentable instanced workshop, was a sort of cooperative or time-share crafting for big ticket items. I imagine being able to rent a big workshop for a set amount of time with access restricted to the LS which rented it, and players can go in and help craft bits and pieces of some big project like a caravan, ship, or even a house. Players would be able to work together in the workshop groups or on their own if no one happens to be there, but every successful craft adds towards the collective progress of the project. If the project takes longer than the lease on the workshop, you would be able to renew it the lease or lose the project and progress thus far.

Alas, since crafting/gathering have been demoted to support classes, it'll probably never happen so I hope at least some form of group crafting will be added one day.

[KaiKatzchen]

Alas, since crafting/gathering have been demoted to support classes, it'll probably never happen so I hope at least some form of group crafting will be added one day.

yeah I agree... we can hope one day it happens and we aren't forgotten!

[Holy_Dragoon]

This needs some loove, I like the idea of crafter parties.