Thread: Any idea what is in patch 2.57?

I'm sorry but I can't empathise with players who still didn't clear SoF. Now I am not a particularly good player. I tend to die a lot during EX Primals. But I still managed to beat SoF on the day after it came out. It's not that difficult if you have the basic common sense to do what you are told. Damit, Titan has more mechanics. Unfortunately 99% of the people on DF are simply there to troll. I refuse to believe that some people are so imbecilic that commands like: "get behind the canon and shoot, only shoot the lance when I say so, and someone go up that tower" are beyond their capabilities. Yes, the only sensible answer is that they are trolling. But even without the mechanics it is doable if you understand your class and have a reasonably high item level. Reasonably high being over 100, which is quite low considering that WoD had been up for two months when 2.55 was released. You have all these and still can't do it because of pugs are bad? No problem. Use Party finder. I cleared it with the first PF group I joined. We had 3 attempts. On the third the first lance hit, the second missed and Vishap died before we even got to the third tower. It's that simple. And even that wasn't necessary as we had a FC run scheduled for that evening. This is very important. FFXIV is an MMO. A social game. If you want to play Heavensward I assume you already have a decent Free Company to craft airships. A decent FC will help you clear SoF. Hell, a decent SoF will carry you.

Sympathy is irrelevant, as are opinions. It's the raw numbers that matter. If less than half your active player base is going to get to play your incoming expansion due to lock-out... just how good do you think your next fiscal year's profit margins are going to look?

FFXI's CoP is what choke-held FFXI's numbers to about 500k when it could have had exponential growth like WoW. It took them years to figure out that they just bottle-necked their content so much that barely anyone had completed it.

If FFXIV is truly banking on requiring people to have completed ARR's story to even touch Heavensward, then they're going to have to keep the entirety of ARR's main story at the same sort of learning curve it's been maintaining. Right now, numbers are leaning otherwise.

It doesn't matter what anyone believes, or has an opinion on. This is a matter of raw numbers and how many SE wishes to preserve. If SE followed the desires of only their hardcore or hardcore leaning members we quite simply wouldn't have a game.

If you came into get your car oil changed and fluids topped off, and I told you to 'grow up' and change your own oil, you'd take your business elsewhere. That's effectively what you are telling these people.

Originally Posted by Felis

it seem the numbers of clears aren't that bad. It is still in the green area for SE.

Yet they still feel the desire to patch it? That's mixed messaging. My guess is that's closer to a yellowish green than flat green. Helps to look beyond the PR talk.

Originally Posted by Hyrist

Sympathy is irrelevant, as are opinions.

If you came into get your car oil changed and fluids topped off, and I told you to 'grow up' and change your own oil, you'd take your business elsewhere. That's effectively what you are telling these people.

No. At the very least that's not what I am saying. I'm saying that if a customer wanted to get his car an oil change and one of the mechanics couldn't change the oil and couldn't be bothered to get a few of his colleagues he knows personally to help him change the oil I wouldn't wait for the customer to come back with a simpler car. I would sack the mechanic and change the damned oil myself.

I don't wan't subscribers to leave at the same pace wow subscribers leave nowadays. But if SoF is too hard for someone after beating Titan, Garuda, Nabriales and Clearing Stone Vigil, Praetorium and Keeper of the Lake, they really need help. And if they cant be bothered to ask for help and listen to the advice they should be asking well they have no place in a game that is built on social interaction and cooperation.

I apologize if this offends some people but this is my oppinion as a completely average player, and I'm going to stick to it.

dragoons are getting nerfed.

Maybe even prepairing for the "Pre Release" for those that pre order Heavensward?

But most likely something to do with Steps of Faith.

Regarding Steps of Faith, they have to make it worth the time spent on it, because if Sol is the only thing introduced, I can guarantee myself and many other persons won't give it a chance in Trial Roulette. I'm going to leave every SoF they place me into :P

Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

Then it sounds like the roulette has failed. If people would rather get NO tomes for 30 min, then spend 30 min helping someone get through a trial then there really is no reason to have a roullette. Or option 2, make everything so easy that no1 can fail. Alexander hard mode would the only thing that isn't easy and 97% of players won't do that either. Kinda sad this is what people want from games now a days. It's not even a game anymore; more like a movie that you mash buttons to advance.

If there was no incentive for the trial roulette, the amount of people doing the trials would be hilariously low. Of COURSE I expect something for this. What is it now, 60 Sol? 60 sol for putting up with others ignorance? Nope. I can't care if you think that is elitist, but it is the truth for me and almost everybody else who leaves SoF.