Possible new bot program out.

[Ceodore]

I'm curious to know why third party programs seem to be considered on the same level as hacking. Razor has its own macro program where you can record a series of button presses and have it repeat those commands at the push of a button. It is essentially just taking one button and making it repeat 3 or 4 button presses on a timed setting. How is this so much different than pressing them over and over yourself except for the timing being exactly the same each time? Is Razor's program against the TOS then? Is a macro program okay, but another system isn't? Where is the line crossed?

Edit: One more thing I'd like to add for the whole multi-boxing. This game has an unusually long GCD when compared to most other MMOs, so it is entirely possible that this guy was alt tabbing the whole time. He may have just gotten mixed up in the middle of doing it. Probably someone kind of new to the system.

[Twilite]

Not to be rude - 17 and pro do not belong in the same sentence when it comes to IT. That being said, my suggestion is if you see this again, record it and exploit the faults in their script.

She(?) Means 17 years as IT professional.

[Naliee]

That sounds like botting to me. Have you informed GM?

[Akira]

Don't even get me started on FlyFF ;w;.

And that's stupid wtf. NEVER heard of that, but, learning new things everyday \o/

that sig is pretty awesome lol would like one with a au ra drg female after finishing the lb at the end or just the generic drg from the trailer could work to whichever is easier

[Zaft]

Nope. Once you can control the other character, without having to physically switch to and manually control that other character, it is no longer multi-boxing, it is botting.

Not true. Most multi-boxers use a program that replicates their controls across multiple clients. This is why you almost always see multi-boxers as the same class (such as the infamous 5 ele shaman, or the 8 BLM we see on FFXIV). As you can assume, this falls into a somewhat grey territory as to whether or not it's allowed, but groups like Blizzard do allow it, because the player is still having to actively give the commands to the characters.

[Alistaire]

Not to be rude - 17 and pro do not belong in the same sentence when it comes to IT. That being said, my suggestion is if you see this again, record it and exploit the faults in their script.

Pretty sure they mean 17 years in the IT business, not a 17-yr old who does IT.

[Havenae]

It's called multiboxing and it's usually (meaning nearly every MMO I've ever played, which is a considerable number) not considered against tos. It's not the same as botting and it's certainly not hacking. It's just one person playing multiple accounts at once that they're paying good money for. Theres no exploitation here. Granted they do have 5i use 3rd party software, usually but they are also actively playing. Botting is generally when you are leting the program play for you.

[Pinkie_Pie]

Just wait till you see a horde of black mages, then you'll know the end has come.

[Chiramu]

I hate being that guy, but I will be. I'm on day 4 of 4 where I've noticed a Pld and a Whm in DF roullette EX and anywhere the tank move the whm would follow. There were geared 129+, but only doing half pulls. I seen the tank say Cure and benediction followed with mt on the Benediction. I did notice a cure right away. I did notice a benediction right away. on day 4 of 4, (today.) now i can't prove much but on one specific pull there is a spot the tank may need a Benediction. I i typed What no Benediction and waited to push enter. as the tank neared 40% health I hit enter. I got the Benediction, and subsequently the tank died and said: "You ***hole, don't do that." in chat. Btw, Asking for erase on last boss I almost succeeded in killing the tank a second time, except this time the Whm said: "Didn't I tell you not to do that." Very odd cause it was the tank that said it.....

I have no idea what happened from this description. What type of dungeon were you running? You were MT with another guy? Then you were WHM doing Benediction?

[Norna]

I have no idea what happened from this description. What type of dungeon were you running? You were MT with another guy? Then you were WHM doing Benediction?

From what I can understand is that OP (original poster) during the past four days have entered EX roulette and met a PLD/WHM duo that does small pulls despite being very overgeared. PLD says "Cure" in chat and WHM casts Cure on PLD. PLD says "Benediction" in chat, followed by "mt" (miss tell, basically that they didn't mean to say it, at least in that channel), WHM does not cast Benediction.

On this fourth day, OP types "Benediction" in chat when PLD is low on health and WHM casts Benediction on OP and PLD dies. PLD calls the OP an a-hole and tells him not to do that. On the last boss, OP nearly succeeds in killing PLD again when OP writes another command in chat (I don't know Erase? Does OP mean Purify or Esuna? Not having leveled a WHM to 50 I don't know), now it is WHM saying "I told you not to do that", revealing that WHM and PLD are the same person.

People say that it's multiboxing and not against the rules, but considering that the WHM responds to in-game chat commands, it sounds like it's a bit more than that. I'm not a programmer but it sounds like there's a second program running that scans/reads the FFXIV data, and as far as I know, that's against the rules.