I tried to make one of these of the same exact scene... but it came out really bad, e.e good job ;-;
Not sure why people are having trouble seeing the difference between this and typical multi-boxing (which seems like it would be very difficult in this game considering all the required movement). If the PLD in question were just multi-boxing then there'd be absolutely no reason for the WHM to 'accidentally' use benediction on another player simply because the other player used that word in a sentence (not even the first word of the sentence). Further, it would be absurd for the PLD to admonish the other player for saying 'benediction', as that's not at all disruptive to normal play. Clearly they were using a simple script to control the WHM with chat commands (no idea why they didn't just use a LS that would be private to the two of them, but perhaps that was the original intent) and that's definitely against the ToS.
I find it astounding how many people misunderstand. Are so many just not reading properly?
Thats not legitimate dual boxing. obviously the WHM is being run on a bot or script program that can read text, and the player that requests it, and target the requesting player.
Automation is automation, and is against ToS.
@ OP I think your best bet is reporting things like this to SE and moving on, as all you have done is advertise the fact that something like that is out there by making this post.
Though, if he was dual boxing, what was the actual point of it?
Tanks and healers have almost no queue times so you're bound to get a group in less than 5 mins, even with a bad group its a lot easier and faster to run expert once as tank and again as healer. Seems a lot of unnecessary effort to make a "bot" just to run expert mainly when the botmaster actually has to be present and commanding the bot.
Last edited by mp-please; 05-10-2015 at 12:23 AM.
There are even dualboxing guides on youtube for FFXIV and people who make them think that it is completely fine to do that. Things like this need to be permabanned.
Dualboxing in dungeons is pure selfishness and definitely hurts everyone who is in party with them.
Well, from what I've seen of dualboxing, it's more like quadboxing. It seems many of the guides I see, the player is using 4 characters at once to queue for these dungeons so they don't have to play with anyone but themselves (kekeke). IDK if I really have a problem with this to be honest. If they are talented enough to use 4 characters at once, then let them play by themselves. However, I do find it disturbing if someone is only using 2 and queuing up in the DF to get other people, because then the other two players likely suffer.
as someone who use too dual box ( 2 seperate machine) and a game pad user. i had to make lots of macros, alot using /assist and <f> and <ft>,
but i never attempted dual boxing inside the dungeons just because of the nature of the game ( one hand per controller doesnt mean 50% efficient each hand lol )
by doing so you kinda understood the behaviors of the characters that are running on macros ( built in game ). i que all kinds of classes, but like OP said, ive seen my share of tank/whm that had the behavior of dual boxing, and it didnt bothered me. Because on the course of the game i also think about how it was implemented. ( its kinda obvious when tank or whm doesnt dodge trash mobs aoe, likes spaming medica, sort of things ).
but anything more complex than macros built in game such as auto cure when any player drops to 80% hp. would defenetly fall against ToS. To OP and to any player, who discovers this, all we can do is make a report and leave it to the GMs to investigate this.
and to the perpatrator the OP found, man sound like a very flawed script. if i saw that, i would have done the same thing the OP did, just because the the perpatrator can't put a harrassment report against me when all you do is spout random action words in game. if he admits his dual boxing and other person is running a bot, well finish the dungeon first then file a report.
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