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    Quote Originally Posted by CarmenSandiego View Post
    In case you're late to the party here's a list of the main points of view from this thread comparing the pros and cons of a duel system:

    1) Many people would find it an enjoyable optional feature
    2) Fosters creativity and individual play style
    3) Provides the opportunity for practice and enhancing your abilities in a PvP setting,
    4) Promotes healthy competition between consenting players (the ethos of PvP)
    5) May encourage more players to participate in PvP, and even assist in queue times for Frontlines/Wolves' Den
    6) Something else to do.
    7) Fits in with Lore. We have the Colosseum, duels in the MSQ, and PvP.

    Cons
    1) Increased server activity
    2) Classes may be unbalanced
    3) Harassment


    Not only do the pros outweigh the cons, there have been suggestions throughout this thread that accommodate these concerns and even solve them.
    Lol, well that list is completely biased. Here's a more realistic list:

    Pros
    1) Many people would find it an enjoyable optional feature
    2) May encourage more players to participate in PvP, and even assist in queue times for Frontlines/Wolves' Den
    3) Something else to do.

    Cons
    1) Many people would find it annoying to see duels in the open world
    2) Harassment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Lol, well that list is completely biased. Here's a more realistic list...
    No it wasn't... hers way much more representative of the thread as a whole (which' what she said was the point)...

    Yours, idk why you cut out balance concerns from cons. People have expressed that (even if I don't think it a good counterpoint, it exists)...

    Yours is less accurate & feels like it represents a more narrowed perspective (which' funny, given your point).
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    1) 3 people would find it annoying to see duels in the open world

    fixed!
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    Having 1v1 pvp on the overworld would be a terrible idea unless its in specific areas. To address some of the thoughts going back and forth about this topic here are some additional points. With all the stuff going on in the overworld FATES, Leves, Quests etc. we already have a ton of things going on around us and yes I and I am sure others do not need additional things going on around us that serves no point since nothing will be gained from it. Also the point people are making about testing their skills. You can already do so its called striking dummys. Someone also mentioned having this because queue times. Well sorry to say but no one likes queue times. If queue times were a huge issue and I am not saying long times aren't annoying then no one would ever be a dps class. I don't 100% think their shouldn't be 1v1 somewhere in the game but an already cluttered overworld is not the place for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caponesavage View Post
    Also the point people are making about testing their skills. You can already do so its called striking dummys.
    Striking dummies are utterly worthless as far as PvP goes. For PvE they're fine; You have your static rotation, as does the boss, you practice that rotation and fit it around the bosses. For PvP you aren't fighting some scripted AI, you're fighting an actual person. Practicing on a dummy doesn't come close to good enough.

    They're also utterly worthless for practicing perhaps the only faucet of PvP that really needs practice; Healing. Healers get focused in PvP, that is a vastly different scenario to PvE and requires some degree of learning to deal with. Currently our only option is to learn that in team matches, which naturally puts your team at a disadvantage. Duels would allow healers to become accustomed to their role in PvP without it impacting team games. There is absolutely no way you can simulate that practice on a dummy that doesn't move or fight back.

    Quote Originally Posted by caponesavage View Post
    Someone also mentioned having this because queue times. Well sorry to say but no one likes queue times. If queue times were a huge issue and I am not saying long times aren't annoying then no one would ever be a dps class.
    Here is the difference though; You're stuck waiting for a queue for PvE content? There is plenty of PvE content you can do in the mean time. Stuck queuing for PvP, meaning you want to PvP? There is no PvP content to do while you wait what-so-ever. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-15-2015 at 11:54 PM.

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    You are correct but this isn't a pvp game by any stretch of the imagination. If all you are on the game for is pvp content then this might be the wrong game. While you are queued for pvp stuff you could just as easily do pve content as well.
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