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  1. #101
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    There was a similar sort of pvp/1v1 style combat in XI called Brenner, however it was confined to a specific area (an island atoll iirc). There was also open world group pvp in zones, Ballista. That had a limited window to apply to join via talking to a NPC and then after the window was closed, only those who joined in would be affected. True it was usually nation vs nation, but even if you weren't aligned with one of the nations involved, you could still join in.

    Personally, I don't like pvp from my experiences in DCUO and SWTOR, but there's obviously a desire within the community for it. We already have the Wolves Den and Frontlines... have something similar for 1v1. I'd prefer having a set area for it though, not just any open area.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Wolves Den isn't fun, its not out in the Open World. Fighting in the Open World is a lot different then fighting inside tiny instances.

    You should get tokens/rewards for Open World Dueling/Open World PvP as well.
    I'm all for more PVP modes in this game such as dueling but I think you might meet a lot of backlash if you request open world PVP. It would change the dynamic of this game a lot. People would be ganked while questing or gathering, zone entrances and bridges would be camped, and a whole lot of other acts that are considered griefing would make an appearance. Mercenaries and sellswords would thrive in such an environment as well. I personally do not want to spend gil on hiring a security team to escort me onto the field just to do a few quests and FATEs.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    I'm all for more PVP modes in this game such as dueling but I think you might meet a lot of backlash if you request open world PVP. It would change the dynamic of this game a lot. People would be ganked while questing or gathering, zone entrances and bridges would be camped, and a whole lot of other acts that are considered griefing would make an appearance. Mercenaries and sellswords would thrive in such an environment as well. I personally do not want to spend gil on hiring a security team to escort me onto the field just to do a few quests and FATEs.
    To this I can agree. As much fun as it can be, Open World PVP really need's to be restricted to it's own server. That' being said, a duel is confined, and does not effect anyone. Your more likely to get harrassed by the DRG's and WHM's constantly spamming Ring of Thorns and Holy than you will by people dueling on the beat of Costa Del Sol. In a duel your attacks do not effect other players any more than if I was to just go and spam actions next to you. If anything people dueling next to your gather would be a benefit to you because any mobs nearby may end up being killed for you.

    Honestly the only responses I've seen is "I don't like it so no one else should enjoy it" and "I'm sensitive".

    Again. Actual open world pvp I can agree would not work for the environment this game strives for. Unless PVP servers became a thing I can support keeping this out of FFXIV. Dueling between friends and other players in the open world, not effecting anyone else, is just another way for people to have fun in the open world.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhaja View Post
    To this I can agree. As much fun as it can be, Open World PVP really need's to be restricted to it's own server. That' being said, a duel is confined, and does not effect anyone. Your more likely to get harrassed by the DRG's and WHM's constantly spamming Ring of Thorns and Holy than you will by people dueling on the beat of Costa Del Sol. In a duel your attacks do not effect other players any more than if I was to just go and spam actions next to you. If anything people dueling next to your gather would be a benefit to you because any mobs nearby may end up being killed for you.

    Honestly the only responses I've seen is "I don't like it so no one else should enjoy it" and "I'm sensitive".

    Again. Actual open world pvp I can agree would not work for the environment this game strives for. Unless PVP servers became a thing I can support keeping this out of FFXIV. Dueling between friends and other players in the open world, not effecting anyone else, is just another way for people to have fun in the open world.
    Here's the most concrete response. It'll take developer time, of which there is only so much. To implement this, there will have to be other things we *don't* get. I'd rather have them do something in the Final Fantasy spirit.
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  5. #105
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    Nope.

    Not a PVP Game, so no open world PvP, this includes dueling. Open World PvP (that isn't in some form of instance) is contrary to the cooperative spirit of the Final Fantasy series.

    Even if they were dueling made available, it would be under similar restriction as Tetra Master due to the same reasons, location wise. This is to control Duel-offer abuse and provide reason to go to the designated areas.

    Class Balancing is non-existent, for PvP, which is why even in Slaughter Mode there are objectives to fight over. PvP here is a team-game. Even dedicated PvPers recognize how little depth and weight it would add to the game vrs creating better PvP matchmaking and better modes than we currently have.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus View Post
    It'll take developer time, of which there is only so much. To implement this, there will have to be other things we *don't* get. I'd rather have them do something in the Final Fantasy spirit.
    What is the Final Fantasy "spirit"? This sounds like a term that someone made up to push an anti-PVP agenda.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Not a PVP Game, so no open world PvP, this includes dueling.
    Open world PVP and dueling are completely different. How can you lump both of these together?
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    The only way this should even be considered an option in this game would be a designated dueling ring where you cannot whisper people while in this instanced zone and shut away from the rest of the world that does not want to go through another headache of wow oriented experiences of being spammed to duel and taunted constantly by e-peen driven teens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    The only way this should even be considered an option in this game would be a designated dueling ring where you cannot whisper people while in this instanced zone and shut away from the rest of the world that does not want to go through another headache of wow oriented experiences of being spammed to duel and taunted constantly by e-peen driven teens.
    This. I don't care if people can have duels - i just don't want to see said duels or be exposed to PVP-eople in any way. Out of sight and out of mind? Sure! Go whip em out in private kids ; P
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    IMO, no I don't like this idea. It just things to make scumbag people say "u noob cuz reject duel". So, -1 for this post.
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