DEV REQUEST:DUEL/SPAR system

[Grimmel]

most our saying that duel is not suited for cooperation theme of eorzea, but cant you understand that duel is different from killing. my idea of a duel is a friendly matched or training that aims to lessen the hp to 1 and not zero. if you dont want a duel in the friendly zone areas, then that can be solved to an arena or training gorund of some sort. stop making issues that it can ruin the story because with the proper design it will never will.

This.

As an RP'er on Balmung we have these weekly events called Grindstone and Runestone.. These events are RP'd sparing matches.. and they take nearly 6+ hours to complete because everything has to be typed out. I know some would oppose a duel system being added but it would help these types of events go by faster to where we aren't literally spending half a day on one match.

[AzraelX]

It's completely optional open world and make people want to have contest and tourmetments for fun. If we can have dance parties together why not sparring matches

We are not attacking out of Malice but testing each other's skills as adventurs- completely fits in the lore and will make open world even more alive.

[Jonnycbad]

Some jobs would be grossly overpowered compared to others. For example, Warriors with 11k HP would trounce jobs like Dragoon. Bard would probably be the most overpowered, given they can run while DPSing, BLM would be at a large disadvantage, cant cast while running, low HP.
FFXIV has very limited cross-class abilities, equipment stats are vertical and extremely narrow and generic. PVP in FFXIV would really be extremely boring...DRG vs DRG...they both have the exact same abilities, the guy who activates abilities faster or has better gear wins, not so much even skill really. Again in FFXI, a DRG could sub a mage and have their wyvern use healing breath, or they could sub WAR and provoke to prevent the other player from using abilities, they could third eye to dodge with /SAM,etc.

[AzraelX]

I understand it won't be balanced it does have to be its just for fun

[Wobi]

I understand it won't be balanced it does have to be its just for fun

While you may be ok with "just for fun" if they added 1v1 without re-balancing all of the classes people would cry on the forums about certain jobs being overpowered/underpowered and honestly it's a waste of development time to add something 1-2% of the playerbase is seeking all the while upsetting the majority of the players who are vehemently against this type of thing being added. Open world PvP is acceptable only in games that were started with that premise and everyone knows what they are getting into. Shoehorning this into a mostly PvE game with majority playerbase that shies away from PvP centric games is just bad business.

[kpxmanifesto]

While you may be ok with "just for fun" if they added 1v1 without re-balancing all of the classes people would cry on the forums about certain jobs being overpowered/underpowered and honestly it's a waste of development time to add something 1-2% of the playerbase is seeking all the while upsetting the majority of the players who are vehemently against this type of thing being added. Open world PvP is acceptable only in games that were started with that premise and everyone knows what they are getting into. Shoehorning this into a mostly PvE game with majority playerbase that shies away from PvP centric games is just bad business.

??? This is dueling we're talking here, not open world pvp. Open world pvp is if players can attack each other at free will in certain or all zones.

[Xieveral]

I understand it won't be balanced it does have to be its just for fun

WoW's duel system wasn't balanced, a high level could duel a low-level. I was a priest, squishiest of the squishies but I loved unfair duels. It was like a game of tag, to see how long could I evade and keep myself alive before they got their KO on me.

[AzraelX]

It's not for pvp rewards it's just for fun- sorry to repeat myself. I understand the concerns about balance. More options are never a bad thing

[Hiruke]

More options are never a bad thing

This just isn't true. For example, a restaurant could have 5,000 items on their menu, or they could have 50. Which do you think has better food? The one with "more options"? Or the one that has less bad options?

Please allow me to introduce the project management triangle, since we've all got our "the dev team needs to do this" hats on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...ement_triangle

Even the smallest change to the game eats up resources, and has a cost somewhere else. Doing X means we're not doing Y. For ANYTHING to get implemented, it has to be more important than a multitude of other things. You wouldn't add in dueling "just because". Unless a certain number of folks are going to use X system, there's ZERO reason to put it in place. And if jobs aren't balanced to where 1v1 fights are actually any kind of fun for anyone, there will never be enough potential users of the system to justify all the negatives that come with it, much less the cost of doing it to begin with.

Simply put, this request has zero chance of getting into the game. They haven't even solved how to get people to do that PvP they have already, the last thing they need to do is add more different kinds of unbalanced PvP, especially ones that let players nag other players in the open world.

[kpxmanifesto]

the last thing they need to do is add more different kinds of unbalanced PvP

Could you show me a few examples of MMORPG's that have perfectly balanced dueling?