Add another DPS to Dungeons

[Krocodile]

Wow has shorter queue times not because there are 3 dps slots, but because tanking and healing is a no brainer in that game, leaving only the stigma that comes with tanking and healing for players to deal with and thus allowing for many more players rolling tanks and healers.

[Callinon]

Wow has shorter queue times not because there are 3 dps slots, but because tanking and healing is a no brainer in that game, leaving only the stigma that comes with tanking and healing for players to deal with and thus allowing for many more players rolling tanks and healers.

Thing is, WoW really doesn't have shorter queue times.

[JimboTCB]

Thing is, WoW really doesn't have shorter queue times.

Indeed, when I quit playing WOW, DPS queues were in the region of half an hour for endgame dungeons, and it's been pretty much the same in almost every other MMO I've played, which makes me think this generally what people will put up with as an "acceptable" queue time before giving up and doing something else. It's like adding more lanes to a motorway, it doesn't necessarily reduce the traffic, it just means that more people will start using it until it gets just as busy as it was previously.

[Seku]

I don't think they should add another DPS slot as it would at best only fix the problem slightly. You'd add 1 dps more onto each run, but in the end you'd still be waiting on the Tank and Healer to show up. There are also many other options that could be just as fast as dungeon's. Fates and leve's can net you about the same amount in the same time it would take you to finish a dungeon. And really the only reason for dungeon play is to really figure out your role in a party and how to play it in a party setting imo. Though I do hope that SE goes back to the older dungeons and make it so you can solo it for story reasoning, as someone had mentioned earlier.

[Cookymon]

This. A thousand times this. There's a huge imbalance in this game, and at least trying to shuttle more DPS in a group will help alleviate it. Especially since SE seems to not want to change tanking/healing to be more enjoyable for the general player base, it'll at least mitigate the wait time a bit.

What part of being DPS is actually more enjoyable than playing tank or healer? o.O

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It's like adding more lanes to a motorway, it doesn't necessarily reduce the traffic, it just means that more people will start using it until it gets just as busy as it was previously.

It's more like the city putting out more buses so people can use them to get to work, but everyone wants to drive their cars instead.

What part of being DPS is actually more enjoyable than playing tank or healer? o.O

MAD DEEPS! Apparently nuking things to death is more fun than maintaining aggro or keeping people alive. No matter how "fun" a tank or healer class can be made, no one wants to take the role of keeping hate on them or playing babysitter.

[JaderauntOnJenova]

SE just needs to make tanking and healing more fun to the current damage players. I like playing a healer but started out as a Thaumaturge and gave up around Lvl 32 BLM when DF waits were averaging 30+ mins for me. I wait a little as a healer but it's usually instant. Maybe longest was 7 mins. Maybe buff cleric stance a little more or the paladins sword oath to make it more DPS like for those players who want that from time to time.

I don't think adding a 5th light party spot would alleviate it for long as people like me who gave up DPS might go back until the queue times ramp back up and then we just would ask for +1 more DPS slot.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

No one wants to play healer or tanks because it requires too much micromanagement, nothing to do with their own damage output. Even if Square made a healer and tank class mechanically easy as possible, people won't enjoy the classes because they're doing something that's not about nuking enemies to death.

[Lauren]

I'd love 5-man dungeons too with 3x DPS.

You could do more mechanics too, which would make them more fun/challenging.

[Seryl199]

MAD DEEPS! Apparently nuking things to death is more fun than maintaining aggro or keeping people alive. No matter how "fun" a tank or healer class can be made, no one wants to take the role of keeping hate on them or playing babysitter.

I actually like playing babysitter, since my role is important regardless of the group. If they're good, I can opt to put up solid DPS, and if they're bad, I'll keep them alive like nobody's business. Everyone has their own mindset to follow, mine is that the healing role by nature has the most impact on the group, and that makes it fun for me. Most everyone else, as evidenced by queue times, would rather do more damage with less responsibility. Adding another DPS would simply cause tanks and healers to trickle over to DD roles until queue times balance out once more, and no one would have a different mentality about the role of tank, healer, or DD than they did before.