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    Menae Dulanis
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikoriL View Post
    Are you implying to make two macros for some reason to one does the revive and one voices the revival to the party? I can understand not wanting to macro two actions together, since that's almost always an efficiency lost, but it seems like you're dividing it further than that...
    Yes, that is what Drasyra is implying. It's clunky as hell, I agree, but he is correct in that any spell in a macro cannot be queued up. If you do so, the game will not accept the input until after your previous spell finishes casting, meaning there's a small delay between when finish your previous spell and when the new one can start. On the other hand, if you just hit the spell shortcut, you can press the button while the previous spell is casting and the game will automatically start casting the new spell as soon as possible. It allows for less delay between spells.

    That said, I think a Raise/announce Raise macro is fine, because A) you'll likely be using it after Swiftcast, so you don't have to worry about the queuing problem most of the time, and B) when you aren't, a half a second delay likely won't change much. Just don't macro Swiftcast into the actual Raise macro.
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikoriL View Post
    Are you implying to make two macros for some reason to one does the revive and one voices the revival to the party? I can understand not wanting to macro two actions together, since that's almost always an efficiency lost, but it seems like you're dividing it further than that...
    I think she's saying that you should use the raise skill as a pure skill, not as a macro. But in addition to that, have macro which announces in chat that you're raising someone. So yes, two button presses in case you do the announcement too. (And three if swiftcast was used) The reason being, you can get action sort of queued up even if you press it a bit before the previous cool down ends, that way making it launch exactly on the earliest possible moment. No such thing with macros, you can only use them after the previous cool down has ended and due reflexes, latency and all other fun stuff, it can cause from hardly noticeable to even serious delays.
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    Last edited by Sida; 05-11-2015 at 07:53 PM.
    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drasyra View Post
    OK, not everyone will agree but here's my take on it: don't use macros to heal. Just don't do it. It stops ability queuing which can lead to things simply not going off if there is any kind of latency.

    Text echo macros to let your co-healer know you've cast raise etc? Fine. Make them separate to the actual cast though.

    I like bashing the use of macros too, but a raise+announce is really not a problem.
    virus+announce I would not do, virus is oGCD that can be queued perfectly so those are to be separated but raise.. cmon.
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    Last edited by Spoekes; 05-11-2015 at 08:46 PM. Reason: changed quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    I like bashing the use of macros too, but a raise+announce is really not a problem.
    virus+announce I would not do, virus is oGCD that can be queued perfrectly so those are to be separated but raise.. cmon.
    Was explaining the post that was referred earlier, not saying it is my opinion ^^.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    yeah sorry I changed the quote now
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    Kanya Nague
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    raise is fine, but dont do any of those mouse over macros for your heals, or combine embrace with heals.

    However, what i have is a macro for Eos

    /macroicon "embrace" Pet Eos
    /merror off
    /pac "Embrace" <mo>
    /pac "Embrace" <t>
    /pac "Embrace" <tt>
    something like that, it will tell Eos to use next embrace on a mouseover, or targeted or target of target person.
    Useful to set priorities or force her to cast before the target is lower than 80%.
    Eos is independent of your own skills and has a 1 sec wait time anyways, so killed ability queue doesnt matter.
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    <tt> for heals, also fairyheals, is very clunky.
    You macro will cause the fairy to heal herself when you target an enemy.
    If you switch both lines (<tt> first), you might heal the wrong target too depending on what target it has.

    shouldn't use it for heals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    <tt> for heals, also fairyheals, is very clunky.
    You macro will cause the fairy to heal herself when you target an enemy.
    If you switch both lines (<tt> first), you might heal the wrong target too depending on what target it has.

    shouldn't use it for heals.
    What Spoekes said. If you watch your fairy carefully, you'll probably notice her healing herself instead of the intended target when the condition for the second command line is met.

    This is why I learned to use and love the Embrace <mo> macro.
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    I happen to heal on a ps4 and do use macros but not in the manner most would expect....feel free to send me a message and I will even let you shareplay and see how I have mine set up...takes some getting use to but I do ok with it ..:-)
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    I have a good "how to annoy your static" marco. The timings are a little bit off (the text happens before the tick), but being accurate isn't really it's purpose. XD

    /micon "Regen"
    /ac "Regen" <t>
    /p Casting Regen on <t>. <se.12> <wait.3>
    /p Regen has ticked. <se.9> <wait.3>
    /p Regen has ticked. <se.9> <wait.3>
    /p Regen has ticked. <se.9> <wait.3>
    /p Regen has ticked. <se.9> <wait.3>
    /p Regen has ticked. <se.9> <wait.3>
    /p Regen has ticked. <se.9> <wait.3>
    /p Regen has worn off. Please re-apply. <se.12>
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