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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    But by that logic, it would seem very silly that when Scan wears off, the party suddenly "forgets" the weakness. You're better off going by some sort of bleed/viral effect so it would make a bit of sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    But by that logic, it would seem very silly that when Scan wears off, the party suddenly "forgets" the weakness. You're better off going by some sort of bleed/viral effect so it would make a bit of sense.
    They forget because they have other things to worry about than keep track of every single little detail of the monster in front of them. I'd rather worry about the giant mountain coming my way. This is just my train of thought though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Govalon View Post
    We could scan their HP. It would be fun to know how much HP each boss has
    Those numbers are already available, if you're actually interested.
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    I don't know why "it's a classic Scholar ability" is the reasoning here. Other than the oft-repeated "this doesn't make sense for this game", Scholar in FFXIV is, well, NOTHING like previous incarnations. Does it strike you as a master of black magic AND white magic? Or... does it seem like a healer with shields and a faerie?

    Oh, sorry. Their original AF is very Scholar-like. That's something, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    I don't know why "it's a classic Scholar ability" is the reasoning here. Other than the oft-repeated "this doesn't make sense for this game", Scholar in FFXIV is, well, NOTHING like previous incarnations. Does it strike you as a master of black magic AND white magic? Or... does it seem like a healer with shields and a faerie?

    Oh, sorry. Their original AF is very Scholar-like. That's something, I guess.
    Sounds like reasoning to make Scholar more Scholar-like, in my opinion.

    As it stands, Scholar isn't Scholar. It's Summoner II. They couldn't possibly give Summoner all the summons since there has to be some sense of balance. Scholar is literally just Rydia if her only summon was Sylph. It's Scholar in name and AF only, there is putting a different spin on a Job and then there is just not delivering that Job at all...

    Throw in a strategic set of skills and actually make Scholar worthy of its title... Scan could easily work in a similar fashion to Aetherflow to be honest; You Scan an enemy, get stacks of Intel, can use them to use various abilities. Although we already have Aetherflow, so why bother? I'd love to see Summoner actually focus on the pets, rather than DoTs and Fester, and Scholar focus more on utilizing Aetherflow tactically. Just Sacred Soil is fairly lackluster... Such a shame that they couldn't get dual Jobs for a Class down well...
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    But would people really use it? It would be a one and done spell since people would learn the boss' rotations/attacks by heart. Besides, nothing in this game is so complex that you need an ability just to learn what an attack does; all the game is "keep away from the glowy AOEs that do big owies and sometimes something else that makes you sick". Almost every class so far has the one or two abilities that no one ever uses due to them being overly situational or completely useless at the current end game, so this Scan ability is nothing but a novelty for the sake of "tradition".
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    I wouldn't mind Scan being added to game as just a fluff skill that shows total hp, status immunities, and some basic lore (with most/all bosses being immune to it). I'd prefer though if they added it, for it to be a non class specific action, like sprint, instead of wasting a Sch skill on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    But would people really use it? It would be a one and done spell since people would learn the boss' rotations/attacks by heart. Besides, nothing in this game is so complex that you need an ability just to learn what an attack does; all the game is "keep away from the glowy AOEs that do big owies and sometimes something else that makes you sick". Almost every class so far has the one or two abilities that no one ever uses due to them being overly situational or completely useless at the current end game, so this Scan ability is nothing but a novelty for the sake of "tradition".
    Hey, sometimes there's 'get in the glowy AoEs before they go boom,' but you're correct that there is no need for a Scan ability in the game as it stands. It could be turned into a debuff of some kind that increases damage dealt to the target, reduces evasion, but I'm not sure if that's really within the scope of the original ability, or if it should be just be given a different name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramien View Post
    Hey, sometimes there's 'get in the glowy AoEs before they go boom,' but you're correct that there is no need for a Scan ability in the game as it stands. It could be turned into a debuff of some kind that increases damage dealt to the target, reduces evasion, but I'm not sure if that's really within the scope of the original ability, or if it should be just be given a different name.
    If you plan to make scanning a debuff, it would be better off as a different name entirely. And I can already see the flood of threads whining how Scan is not like the traditional Scan. Goodness knows we have everything else in the game that breaks tradition for the sake of keeping things flowing and uniform.
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    This game is so basic it's not even funny lol.
    Neat stuff like this would be neat...but nah, serves no purposes...
    DPS POWA! All you have to do and do the hula with your right foot in and out all day.
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