Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
And what bard actually plays without songs. The fact that they are even remotely close IS a problem. Don't even look at bard. Look at BLM vs. SMN if you don't even want to look at the melee and it's still a good chunk of difference.

There is no denying SMN need buffs/tweaks. At the very least that change to spell speed affecting dot's would be a significant boost.
I don disagree that smn need buffs(they absolutely do, and 3.0 is supposed to bring a significant rework to summoners according the information we've been given so far), I was just pointing out that posting a list of dps in content without context says nothing. Unless you can tell us what gear those summoners were using compared to the bards, whether the groups the dps were recorded in included a foe using bard, or if the players who were recorded are actually good at summoner in the first place, showing their dps in a vacuum is meaningless.