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  1. #21
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    I think what Illya meant is that it makes more sense for a FLYING dragon to just nuke the wards from the air where...you know...he can't be attacked...
    The dragons (theoretically) aren't fools. If they're not attacking from the air, it means that something about the wards is preventing them from attacking from the air, even if we don't know what that something is. That Vishap chooses to stomp slowly across the bridge instead of nuking it from orbit (just to make sure) doesn't bother me, because I'm sure he's doing it for a reason.

    What DOES bother me is how, for the entirety of the fight, Vishap doesn't bother to, you know, directly attack any of us? He stomps on people by accident. He blows away cannons, but doesn't particularly care about the people manning them. He's got a huge head full of sharp teeth, but never uses it. One could argue that we're that we're beneath his notice, that he's leaving us to his minions while he gets the important ward-destroying work done. That only holds water until the first Dragonslayer lands. At that point, he REALLY oughta be paying better attention to the flies buzzing around his feet! Once it's revealed that we can deal more than superficial damage to him, we're presenting a significant threat to his ward-destroying mission, after all!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Does Vishap even using any sort of breath attack?
    I always assumed that Vishap's bridge-wide attack that the snares interrupt is a breath attack, but I've always been too busy to check out the animation.
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  2. #22
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Vishap has his orders - take out the wards, ignore everything else. Even at the cost of his own life, apparently.
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  3. #23
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    Shem's Avatar
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    X'amashi Tia
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    That only holds water until the first Dragonslayer lands. At that point, he REALLY oughta be paying better attention to the flies buzzing around his feet! Once it's revealed that we can deal more than superficial damage to him, we're presenting a significant threat to his ward-destroying mission, after all!
    If Vishap's tanking of our group is anything like my feeble attempts at tanking he needs to be forgiven. He has Netflix running on the other screen and it's not just going to watch itself! = D
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  4. #24
    Player Bruiser_Cruiser's Avatar
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    Skeeter Valentine
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    Goblin
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    Conjurer Lv 53
    All i know is this 8man is standing in between me and finishing the story until the expansion comes out and i cant find a group to get it done. I have queued 4 seperate times and either people leave before we even get going or when we do pull adds are running around like crazy just smacking me 1 shotting me. Im a WHM. Idk, i just really dont get why SE made this fight rely so heavily on people picking there roles and knowing how to execute them correctly. I mean this isnt supposed to be hard like Coils, but im pretty sure their are coils fight that would be easier then this even with no Echo. just my 2 cent
    TLDR ; This Steps of Fate shit sucks and i just want to be done with the story mode but cant find smart people to run it with. And its too complicated for casual players.
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    Last edited by Bruiser_Cruiser; 05-09-2015 at 02:20 AM.

  5. #25
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser_Cruiser View Post
    All i know is this 8man is standing in between me and finishing the story until the expansion comes out and i cant find a group to get it done. I have queued 4 seperate times and either people leave before we even get going or when we do pull adds are running around like crazy just smacking me 1 shotting me. Im a WHM. Idk, i just really dont get why SE made this fight rely so heavily on people picking there roles and knowing how to execute them correctly. I mean this isnt supposed to be hard like Coils, but im pretty sure their are coils fight that would be easier then this even with no Echo. just my 2 cent
    TLDR ; This Steps of Fate shit sucks and i just want to be done with the story mode but cant find smart people to run it with. And its too complicated for casual players.
    It took me 16 tries. Just keep hammering.
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  6. #26
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    Keylus's Avatar
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    Keylus Laststorm
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    One does not simply walk into Ishgard
    They are taking the lalas to Ishgard
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  7. #27
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    Lilyarel's Avatar
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    Lucceia Verres
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    Vishap is a huge winged flying dragon, therefore his logical attack path is to walk very slowly across a bridge.

    Okay?
    It may actually have to do with the barriers around Ishgard. Its stopping him from having a smooth flight.
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  8. #28
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    What DOES bother me is how, for the entirety of the fight, Vishap doesn't bother to, you know, directly attack any of us? He stomps on people by accident. He blows away cannons, but doesn't particularly care about the people manning them. He's got a huge head full of sharp teeth, but never uses it. One could argue that we're that we're beneath his notice, that he's leaving us to his minions while he gets the important ward-destroying work done. That only holds water until the first Dragonslayer lands. At that point, he REALLY oughta be paying better attention to the flies buzzing around his feet! Once it's revealed that we can deal more than superficial damage to him, we're presenting a significant threat to his ward-destroying mission, after all!
    You do realize that outside of a full i120 to i130 party, that only the Cannons, Explosive Barrels and Dragonkillers are doing significant damage? The a group in the expected gear does only superficial damage.

    I always assumed that Vishap's bridge-wide attack that the snares interrupt is a breath attack, but I've always been too busy to check out the animation.
    The message that announces the attack describes it as "breathes."
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  9. #29
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    Zohar_Lahar's Avatar
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Landwaster is indeed his breath attack. Also note that he takes out the wards by body slamming them; it's likely aerial breath attacks wouldn't even work.
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  10. #30
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    Calypsx's Avatar
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    Caly Umbra
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    All that goes out the window anyway once to the damn turtle spawns.
    I REALLY hate that turtle.
    You know a turtle is bad when even the person form the server named after a turtle hates it. xP

    In all seriousness yeah the turtle is the worst part of the entire thing. Turtle should be the number 1 priority when it spawns if you have new players in the group as it just makes things harder if kept alive.
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