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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    ffxi did end up implementing personal chocobos a couple years in + you could essentially instaport to the cities if you got the outpost warps to the areas around them (was a 1min walk). That 1 min walk in effect let new players see rank 75s in epic gear run past and gave them an incentive to keep leveling.They weren't there for the instant teleport. They were more than likely there for some quest objective. If you have quest objectives that involve the city and give reasons to be in those cities then you'll have new players witnessing the veterans. Airships were mainly for going to Kazahm or if you were in jeuno.They still wasted too much time.

    i think the reason i liked it so much is because when you started the game it meant something to be in your home region and you identified with your home nation and got used to it.I agree with this. There should be more done to really identify with your home. Grand Companies is a start, but more quests that draw the line between nations is a big one. I know the conquest system in XI was a big one especially in the beginning. I remember getting into a /shout match in the Valkurm Dunes when I, and every other NA, was a new player. They did a great job of differentiating the nations in that sense. Like going from San'doria to Windurst was a big deal and took time.And was cool the first time, but was despised subsequent times thereafter.


    They need to add more nation differentiating content. More quests to tie us to our home nation. More lore that pits us apart but for the most part we come together. XI did do a good job in that respect. It was generally a server wide consensus that Bastok and San' D'oria hated each other but both thought that Windurst was cool and Windurst just wished it was closer to Valkurm Dunes because they liked both of the other nations equally. Put more emotional distance between the nations, not physical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post

    They need to add more nation differentiating content. More quests to tie us to our home nation. More lore that pits us apart but for the most part we come together. XI did do a good job in that respect. It was generally a server wide consensus that Bastok and San' D'oria hated each other but both thought that Windurst was cool and Windurst just wished it was closer to Valkurm Dunes because they liked both of the other nations equally. Put more emotional distance between the nations, not physical.


    I personally feel the distance and trouble you had to go through just to visit other nations at the early stages of the game really did give you a sense of national pride for your home nation.

    You spent all your time in town, at your city because you didn't really have the means to transport yourself to the others for some time, by that time you were so familliar with your nation it was like home.

    While I atribute some of that to the distance and inabillity to move to other nations, each nation had a plethora of content available to it, XIV lacks this...it has quests here and there but you never feel like "Part" of your nation. There needs to be some sort of exclusive content for you in the main cities aside from the quests, hell if even a few choice NPC's would notice you (Fame NPC's in XI come to mind, but I'd rather it be a few NPC's who noticed you per city) the NPC's in XIV actually say a few unique things based on your class I don't see why they can't make a few respond based on your nationality or storyline progression.

    It would be awesome to see NPC's sho you away because they were afraid of the greenwrath wracked on your soul, or if city officials in Limsa gave you the run-around if you were associating with the marauders guild.

    They may not want to keep distance a factor for XIV but at least do something to replace what it created, I want to feel like a part of my home nation...not an alien in all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post

    I personally feel the distance and trouble you had to go through just to visit other nations at the early stages of the game really did give you a sense of national pride for your home nation.

    You spent all your time in town, at your city because you didn't really have the means to transport yourself to the others for some time, by that time you were so familliar with your nation it was like home.

    While I atribute some of that to the distance and inabillity to move to other nations, each nation had a plethora of content available to it, XIV lacks this...it has quests here and there but you never feel like "Part" of your nation. There needs to be some sort of exclusive content for you in the main cities aside from the quests, hell if even a few choice NPC's would notice you (Fame NPC's in XI come to mind, but I'd rather it be a few NPC's who noticed you per city) the NPC's in XIV actually say a few unique things based on your class I don't see why they can't make a few respond based on your nationality or storyline progression.

    It would be awesome to see NPC's sho you away because they were afraid of the greenwrath wracked on your soul, or if city officials in Limsa gave you the run-around if you were associating with the marauders guild.

    They may not want to keep distance a factor for XIV but at least do something to replace what it created, I want to feel like a part of my home nation...not an alien in all of them.


    I agree. There definitely needs to be more in regards to national patriotism or the manufacture thereof.
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