Too Weak To Be Worthwhile - Teleporting

[Darkvalkyr]

It's sad because this topic was actually debating something else.

Now it got sidetracked to 'WE DON'T WANT FAST TRAVEL' vs "WE WANT FAST TRAVEL".

On topic: Yes, we should have to touch the aetheryte in the first place before given porting rights to the zone. Players should go and collect these themselves prior to having others - or themselves teleporting to these places.

[Jynx]

On topic: Yes, we should have to touch the aetheryte in the first place before given porting rights to the zone. Players should go and collect these themselves prior to having others - or themselves teleporting to these places.

Thats some weak middle ground talk right there!

I really just want instant travel to be limited and earned instead of giving to us like a gift from the gods as soon as we start the game.

[Rhomagus]

Thats some weak middle ground talk right there!

I really just want instant travel to be limited and earned instead of giving to us like a gift from the gods as soon as we start the game.

This is also a false assessment of the current state of XIV's development.

[Mortikhan]

ive always felt the mages should be the ones to teleport.
OR since things are already kinda set in stone, why not give mages more extensive teleport/warp spells that have some sort of advantage over anima (other than not having to use up your anima)

Actually if they went to a class teleport spell system I would rather see the gathering classes get those. They do have MP and they have nothing else to use it for. It also makes more sense (to me anyway) because they actually see more overall land than most other classes do and already have movement enhancing abilities. Another way could be to give them camp and node teles and give crafting classes the city teles. Just a thought.

@topic: Yes to rubbing the Aetherytes...Even though I think that the new travel forms will obsolete the travel methods of gatherers. The only real advantage to the quick abilities will be that they are free.

[Zahak]

Get rid of anima. Bring in chocobos and airships. Let the mages quest for scrolls to warp to Aether. Tele-taxi ing!

[AlexNiculaie]

ffxi was successful
this wasn't
point prooven

WTF kind of ridiculous logic is that? Seriously? FFXIV didn't have a failed launch because of teleporting, or because of "easy mode" issues the hyperbole slinging idiots around here like to throw around. It had a failed launch because there was next to no content, horrible lag problems, gigantic zones which were both empty and lacking in variety, and many more problems. Being able to piggyback on another person's teleport had nothing to do with it. Get some perspective aleady.

[Azurymber]

WTF kind of ridiculous logic is that? Seriously? FFXIV didn't have a failed launch because of teleporting, or because of "easy mode" issues the hyperbole slinging idiots around here like to throw around. It had a failed launch because there was next to no content, horrible lag problems, gigantic zones which were both empty and lacking in variety, and many more problems. Being able to piggyback on another person's teleport had nothing to do with it. Get some perspective aleady.

I'm sorry but FFXIV did have a failed launch because of easy mode and immersion issues and you just agreed in your post. "gigantic empty and lacking in variety" is an immersion issue. FFXIV couldn't create a sense of wonder or exploration, which almost always overrides gameplay. Look at morrowind. It is still insanely successful regardless of having both outdated graphics and outdated gameplay. Why? Because they pulled off creating a sense of immersion and adventure.
Instaporting hurts immersion. Big empty zones hurts immersion. lack of variety and copy pasted worlds hurts immersion.
If people feel like a game is "work" there is no point in playing it. If people feel like a game is an adventure with milestones and goals to reach, they will play it even if it sucks.

[Davorok]

It would be nice if they could tie in some of the "Escort Quests" to Aetherite Activation. It would (hopefully) be fun to protect a caravan from thieves, hooligans and wild, shiny-obsessed beasts as it travels to a more remote camp. If the Escort Quests grant decent exp/rewards, I suspect everyone would do it at least once if not a few times Lvl appropriate.

I know some hate Escort Missions and I read an article about how they are usually a keyboard smashing, controller throwing aggravation (cuz NPC's iz stoopid) but I like quests & missions of all types, esp. if it takes a group (not necessarily a party) to complete.

Personally, I would like to have Level Synch for these type of missions/quests but I'm ok with having Hi-Lvls plow the field for newbies also. (You pretty much needed an escort to Jeuno in XI, although I did it solo the 1st time after several painful deaths).

Keep in mind though that it is up to each individual to accept an easy port to a new area or do it the hard way. The argument to take away the temptation to easy-mode doesn't really fly. "Play Your Way" is FFXIV's motto and they are gonna stick to that mantra success or fail (but I am betting on success, with our help) ;>)

p.s Some of you sound like Grumpy-Old-Man, "...In My day, we had to walk through 3 feet of snow, battling sabre-toothed tigers and runnin' from goblins..." http://youtu.be/9N2E93VzQSA ... and I understand.

[Griss]

Don't particularly understand why they turned off the requisite of having to touch the crystals your self.

Though i guess it was to combat the following situation.

Hey want to go on a raptor run around bolder downs?
> Yea man i keep hearing about them, haven't been up to coerthas yet.
... Noob

[Seif]

Don't particularly understand why they turned off the requisite of having to touch the crystals your self.

Though i guess it was to combat the following situation.

Hey want to go on a raptor run around bolder downs?
> Yea man i keep hearing about them, haven't been up to coerthas yet.
... Noob

That always happened to me in XI and it was awesome every time except for the rest of the facepalming pt members who couldn't believe I didn't have some of the most common telecrystals yet XD Anyway it gave me a lot of smaller goals to achieve where as in XIV you're still restricted to only one activity: leves that's all you can do with different names for the same autonavigation system.