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  1. #11
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    LyhraMizrahi's Avatar
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    Grimoire Lux
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    I feel your pain with Zidane. I'm at 73/80 cards and have spent at least 300k MGP on gold packs with no luck. I was farming WoD with a friend for a long time because she wanted gear and I wanted the card. She got like 26 Onion Knights before I got 1 and she doesn't even play Triple Triad. I still cry sometimes.
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  2. #12
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    zandervont's Avatar
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    Sephaistos Eum
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    i second this.

    Currently im at 855k mgp total earned, bought the minions + Adamantoise, rest is spent on lottery tickets + Gold packs. Last week I managed to get Zidane...
    So about 500k for it and assuming it'll take at least another 500k for WoL.
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  3. #13
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    Malakai's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Malakai Bazluth
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I'll quote what I put in the abolish random thread. But yea agree with the OP 100% on the trade-in value's as well as cost. Not only that since we cannot lose cards or trade them, there's almost no point in having duplicates or to make them have such low monetary value.

    IMO the real hard part of TT is the actual obtaining of the cards when it comes down to it. Poor RNG reward of cards from winning TT matches along with poor MGP trade in/buy ratio values are the present issue.
    Example: Go play the imperial 300 matches for a single Gaius card and you come out with around 27000MGP and then trade in the 40 Livia & Rhit cards for 10MGP and the 20 Nero for 50MGP and you get a small bonus of 1800MGP (not even enough to buy a single gold booster). A total of about 28800MGP~. Sure that's enough MGP to buy a minion/barding/few other things. But looking at it from the TT side of the MGP pool it's nothing. Now you can take all that MGP and buy around 12 gold booster packs in hopes of Zidane/WoL. Instead you get about 5 Miounne/Gerolt and another 3 Momodi, and 4 Tenfingers. Trade all those cards back in for 10MGP each and you got back a whopping 120MGP. Who knows tho you could have gotten super lucky and gotten Cid/Ultima but if you already have those cards then you get back only an extra 200MGP added. Not even enough to buy another booster pack.

    The game is meant to be a fun side challenge but it's turned into a super heavy RNG grind challenge. The NPCs are fine in all honesty, they offer a challenge and aren't impossible or insanely difficult to beat. The cards however imo should not be heavily RNG obtained when they have little to no MGP value, let alone even the 4/5 star cards since we can only use 1 of them at a time in a deck. It would be nice if the TT game implemented the pick a card that you flipped if you win the match/obtain all the opponents cards if you flipped them all feature. That feature would not make/break the game at all, and it would allow players to pick cards and greatly help them in building up their decks. The Platinum cards can still keep the hard to obtain function but not as heavy as it is atm, Plat booster packs have them but at low % RNG. The instance fights have them but could increase the RNG because 40-70 fights is a bit much. And even with NPC's by making it where the NPC doesn't use the Plat card 100% of the time in the deck so people couldn't farm that card specifically for MGP gain. But allowing us to always pick one of the cards that give us 5mgp-200 MPG is not a game breaker when it comes to earning MGP. Let alone since players are spending around 2,160 MGP per gold pack with a 95% chance to obtain a card with a 10 MGP value turn in.
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  4. #14
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    Nel_Celestine's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Nel Celestine
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Finally got my Zidane card. Took a total of 217 packs of cards overall. That's more than the price of Nanamo.
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  5. #15
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    ServerCollaps's Avatar
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine View Post
    Finally got my Zidane card. Took a total of 217 packs of cards overall. That's more than the price of Nanamo.
    took me 380 packs for zidane, then I got 2 nearly in a row
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  6. #16
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    Nel_Celestine's Avatar
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    Nel Celestine
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    took me 380 packs for zidane, then I got 2 nearly in a row
    I still feel there is something wrong with the trade in value or drops on cards over all. The Edit with a trade counter would solve a lot of this issue.
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  7. #17
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    Its_Elodie's Avatar
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    Character
    Final Heaven
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I gave up on tt a long time ago. It was fun at first, but after 1,000 runs for that one guy everyone talks about finally getting his Terra card and 100+ runs for me to get mine, and 20 runs of praetorium and 500 wins of indolent imperial with no gaius card....yeah. The straw that broke the camels back was trying to que for battle in the big keep and waiting an hour as heals for a chance at the bartz card and my queue never popped. People aren't even queuing for these instances anymore. I dunno if more people gave up on tt or what. My deck sits at 55 and it'll stay there because I don't feel like wasting a month of subscription time trying for a bartz card.
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  8. #18
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    ServerCollaps's Avatar
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine View Post
    I still feel there is something wrong with the trade in value or drops on cards over all. The Edit with a trade counter would solve a lot of this issue.
    i think its intended that zidane/wol cost about 500k to 1m mgp each like the cloud card

    got my 4th zidane card on a twink today ..lol
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