People like this is why i wont tank ever again

[JimboTCB]

Wiping due to an undergeared or inept healer, or spending five minutes trying to kill two packs of trash because of piss-poor AOE, isn't much of a timesaver. Really, NIN+MNK is one of the DPS combos that makes my heart sink a little as it's about the worst AOE you can have, and it's probably just as fast to pull one pack at a time and single-target nuke the mobs than have them dinking away with their AOE that hits like handfuls of wet noodles.

Really, it's only when there's a well-geared WHM (dat holy), or at least one BLM or BRD that I feel it's that much of a time-saver to pull multiple packs. Besides, if you're a DPS you probably just queued half an hour plus to get in, five minutes extra on the run itself should be nothing by comparison - if anything, it's the tank with his instant queues who has the most incentive to go fast, as it proportionally shaves a lot more time off of the queue plus run time.

[karateorangutang]

Wiping due to an undergeared or inept healer, or spending five minutes trying to kill two packs of trash because of piss-poor AOE, isn't much of a timesaver. Really, NIN+MNK is one of the DPS combos that makes my heart sink a little as it's about the worst AOE you can have, and it's probably just as fast to pull one pack at a time and single-target nuke the mobs than have them dinking away with their AOE that hits like handfuls of wet noodles.

Maybe its just me, but i'd prefer 2-3 group pulls when im playing monk. Its messy and a pain in the rear otherwise.

[shiroxkatsuya]

I've simply gotten to the point where if somehow that happens I let the DPS die and move on. If you're able to take hate from me you get my comm, if you somehow got ahead of me and pull an add I assume you want to test your defensive abilities and respect that decision.

my fav post so far!

[rawker]

conversely, i've once tanked BF HM with a WHM NIN & MNK and the nin told me not to pull too much. after that one pull he was out of TP but both were good enough that the healer seldom had to do cure 2 on them. i guess that nin thinks he can do everything... though i think i threw i a cover on that nin so that he can aoe more. XD

[Austthenoob]

I've simply gotten to the point where if somehow that happens I let the DPS die and move on. If you're able to take hate from me you get my comm, if you somehow got ahead of me and pull an add I assume you want to test your defensive abilities and respect that decision.

As a NIN main for the time being, I respect your respect. I don't always mean to tab target fail, but when I do, I get some sick perfect dodges.

[Arkenne]

I've simply gotten to the point where if somehow that happens I let the DPS die and move on. If you're able to take hate from me you get my comm, if you somehow got ahead of me and pull an add I assume you want to test your defensive abilities and respect that decision.

Altho I agree with letting them burn, the problem is that most DPS are so stupid at holding aggro themselves that the mob they brought about go to the Healer and then starts the stupid chain comments of bad Tank and stuff... :|

Hence even pulling that off takes some skill from the tank :v

On another hand, having a NIN+MNK combo can be quite fun, actually, you could pull only one at a time, maybe, but who said you have to stay right there? you could simply keep the party moving and pull more and more while they keep on killing stuff, never letting the fun die~♪
Helping the MNK keep up their stack can be quite entertaining as a Tank.

[MassEffect007]

Be polite but get diplomatic on their a****s and give them these options:

1:"Please, lets stop being negative and help me, we all need to work together to get thru this and this will help me learn. I'm willing to listen to your tips and things you see me doing wrong so I can correct them. " (Make sure you do the smiling face!)

2: "You guys can votekick me and a more experience Tank will pop up instantly for you ." (Yea right, let them simmer in that thought and they will realize they will be waiting long again)

3: You can votekick the one complaining and we can get someone else to dps/heal who will put up with my mistakes and help along the way.
Bonus: If all else fails and they continue on and don't help complete the dungeon just say "Thanks for your time." and LEAVE.

TLDR: Give them the smiley face and do your job. If they don't like it or don't want to help you then they can either votekick you or they can GTFO!

[Rhaja]

Altho I agree with letting them burn, the problem is that most DPS are so stupid at holding aggro themselves that the mob they brought about go to the Healer and then starts the stupid chain comments of bad Tank and stuff... :|

Hence even pulling that off takes some skill from the tank :v

On another hand, having a NIN+MNK combo can be quite fun, actually, you could pull only one at a time, maybe, but who said you have to stay right there? you could simply keep the party moving and pull more and more while they keep on killing stuff, never letting the fun die~♪
Helping the MNK keep up their stack can be quite entertaining as a Tank.

I have to confess, I am a huge softy for my healers. The moment my healers are in danger nothing else matter's until they're safe .__.

and I love having Monk's because of the challenge to keep their stacks by pulling right. But that's also because I absolutely rage when I lose a stack myself.

[Arkenne]

I have to confess, I am a huge softy for my healers. The moment my healers are in danger nothing else matter's until they're safe .__.

and I love having Monk's because of the challenge to keep their stacks by pulling right. But that's also because I absolutely rage when I lose a stack myself.

Yea, and I always go with my Healer friend so if something will happen to her I rather jump in first >:¬|
I also started this game as a MNK so I know how annoying losing stacks on such intermitent mobs is, but Tanking on places like AV can be fun if you can keep the things coming XP

Starting a run with a "hi~♪, wish you guys a fun run, however possible" makes the trick for the most of it :v