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    Onion Doublet taru's BLATANT exploits!!!!!!! FIXXXXXXXXXXXX IT

    I do not know what they do, but there is at every cap groups of tarus all dressed the same, never moving and GAINING RANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hello, SE how discouraging is it to players who put in effort to see players who do NOT EVEN MOVE GAIN RANK AFTER RANK. You feel like wow im getting somewhere moving on, o what that group of cheater leve linked and gain 5 levels, WITHOUT MOVING< KILLING< BREATHING. GOD that must be the BEST way to alienate diehard players. GET RID of these cheats.

    Just because we are ot paying for this game monthly, it is free, doesnt mean it has to be cheap too. We did not rush this game to market, do not say well screw them we wont take care of those that are BLANTANTLY EXPLOITING LEVELS on thm and con, because correcting the behaviour would we mean that we did make a faulty leveling system. OWN up and fix these xheats. STEP one: require movement in order to get exp, something is better than this............
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    Raikki Zero
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    Ninja Lv 90
    You probably missed this dev post. They're not going to disable power leveling, sorry.

    Determining power leveling
    The standard for battle length from here on out will be 30-40 seconds to defeat a monster of the same level while soloing. It would take about 4-5 seconds for a level 50 character to defeat a level 3 monster next to a level 1 character. The level 1 character can obtain the full amount of experience points just by standing there. However, the level 50 player involved is spending their time leveling up the other player instead of playing other content.

    At this point, it depends how the level 1 character feels about being "helped" by the level 50 character.

    Forcing out power leveling
    It is not easy to distinguish whether the above actions are an act of good will or serve the purpose of RMT or leveling up other characters for money.

    By investigating logs, it is possible to identify for-profit violators and mete out punishment, but it would be very difficult to completely put an end to these actions. Doing so would require implementing very complicated specs, which will place a strain on ordinary users.
    • Distribute experience points based on the amount of damage done to the monster
    • Distribute experience points based on hate
    The above methods were used by first generation MMOs to reduce power leveling, but these methods have their own problems. Players can aggressively fight each other over experience points, classes that do not do much damage are at a disadvantage, and for-profit violators can create bots that randomly attack monsters and steal EXP. (As I said earlier, we will punish for-profit violators. However, we do not want to ban ordinary players, so it will take us time to properly identify for-profit violators.)

    One thing we would like to avoid all costs is EXP stealing by bots.
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    I don't have time to look at every forum post sorry, but I do have time to say what I am seeing and it is disgusting. This is not power leveling, this is stand at the aetheryte, never move, and rank up because the leve is linked. Even if they are not RMT's, just people that want a level 50 w/o doing anything, what is the point of working towards it when anyone can create 10 accounts and have level 50 easily. When everyone is special, no one is. It's pointless!!!!
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    This is the opposite of Power Leveling. In ffxi the lower level character had to fight and the high level character was out of the party healing, since the level gap of the party killed exp. Here a level 50 in a party, and the level one gets full exp? Seriously, seriousl\y???????????????????????????????????????/ Why don't we get a 100 people to login, go to a camp, nominate one of us to toil away, three weeks later we all are level 50, brilliant!!!!! more like pointlessly stupid.
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    Victor Lindark
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    Holy crap, take a friggin chill pill. If your world falls apart over something like this then maybe you shouldn't play
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    Arcadia Aurora
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    Balmung
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    You know there's a bright side to this, right?

    It's a nice way to help out a friend who's brand new to the game, and quickly get him/her to a level where you can enjoy content together rather than always hearing:

    n00b: Hey man, you wanna come lvl with me? ^.^
    1337: Can't. I'm busy doing "endgame xxxxxxx"
    n00b: Oh... Again...? *quits*

    Not everyone wants (or has the option) to start a new class all over again just to lvl with someone.

    I hate RMT just as much as 10 BILLION TIMES MORE THAN the next guy, but this actually can be beneficial more than detrimental in a variety of ways.
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    OMG DOES NOT COMPUTE WITH BRAIN
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    or: I'll stop doing endgame, switch to another class and go level with you.

    This wasn't broken in ffxi, and I do not buy SE's argument about how it is impossible to determine what is help and what is exploitation. THEY stopped this madness in ffxi, and now say do not look behind the curtain. To low a mob= no exp, to high of a rank in party, gimped exp.

    "Holy crap, take a friggin chill pill. If your world falls apart over something like this then maybe you shouldn't play"

    Sadly, it will not be my world that will fall apart, it will be the world of ffxiv that will do to this blatant reinvent the wheel the dev team had when distributing exp. Now we just here from them, "What's a wheel?" Hardcore gamers that want a challenge and reward for time, will NEVER take this game up until this is fixed.

    Let's look at it this way, when they start charging. I sign up, pay my money and level for a month. Get to level say 25. Then I notice 20 tarus standing around all day at camp, keeping pace with my rank, never moving. This is at every camp I go. I say WHAT THE HELL. Play some more, get to fifty, and now everything earned with having a level fifty char is useless, because guess what there are 100 other level 50's, for every real adventurer, that did nothing to achieve that level. Go look up the word level.

    THIS will be the DEATHNAIL of this game. No one in there right mind would pay 13 bucks a month to be on par with rmt's, lazy aholes, and cheats. Sadly, SE does not care.WHY ????

    Joe schmo lasts 3 months = 39 bucks
    RMT x 5 accounts 3 months+ inf. = 39 bucks(5) + (180)n . A ton more then keeping joe happy.

    This world will be full of rmt's and people that tolerate laziness. I am level 50 everything. So what? My 90 year old grandma is too. This should make an interesting gamer community!!!! "Goodbye, skill, patience, endurance, everything that makes a game worthwhile, hello laziness. Just give us the money, we are the Don of RMT's. Remember that!" - SE
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    Last edited by lundakh; 09-08-2011 at 05:00 AM.

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    My question is this: A player picks up the controller everyday and grinds out all the dow/m classes to 50. Another player leve links (or whatever they do to not actually fight and gain exp) and never moves, fights, does anything, and voila, all 50's. What incentive, advantage, or payoff is there to actually picking the controller up?

    Do you honestly believe that, one; this can not be addressed, and two; makes for a community of skilled players at endgame? How about we focus on getting "game", before dreaming about "endgame." Carts and horses, etc, etc....
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Walls of text {No thanks.}
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