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    416to305's Avatar
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    Psycho Bunny
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    White Mage Lv 80

    WHM doing level 50 stuff for the first time?

    I feel like this is a dumb question but this is my first MMO so I started with BLM got it to 50 and then did BRD to 50 since I liked it more. I'm at ilvl 95 as BRD and just unlocked the EX mode primals (haven't done them) and haven't done WoD yet as well as a bunch of HM dungeons. I've done ultima, syrcus tower and I think Haukke HM might be as far as I've done. Anyway I do WHM now since I LOVE it but I always felt like tank and healer were for pros, or people that were doing it as a secondary class since it seem so hard to learn the mechanics while keeping people alive. Originally I wanted to do everything first as BRD to get an idea then do it as WHM but I'm feeling like I want to only play WHM now. If I study guides online and what not, do many people do dungeons for the first time as a healer? I feel like people would be so mad since especially in raids they act like everyone is supposed to be some kind of pro even though half the time there's a bunch of new people so makes me nervous to try!
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    Estellise Valesti
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Before I enter dungeons I alwas watch a video. Usually it's MTQ (MTQ Capture) on Youtube, but if she doesn't have one I watch Mr. Happy's. MTQ's guides are very to the point and give bullet points on things to watch out for. She generally has shorter videos too. I also like her videos because she plays a tank and I would much rather see encounters from the Tank's PoV rather than a DPS'. She also occasionally gives the healer's PoV as well, but she always clarifies what each role is required to do and what each role should look out for. All while making puns.

    I've done everything in this game as a healer first. It's not really all that hard and in reality a healer doesn't have much to look out for except for very specific mechanics. Besides keeping you team a live and removing buffs there's only a few cases where there's a mechanic that healer specific (like Siren for example). If you know your job and you understand the dungeon you shouldn't have any real trouble. I'm always nervous before I enter a new instance, which is why I haven't done any EX trials yet... >>;
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I'm always nervous before I enter a new instance, which is why I haven't done any EX trials yet... >>;
    My FC and I would help you through the EX's if we were on the same server. x_x Safety in friendlies number, lol. We're either always raiding in CT (masochists?) or in a few/spamming some of the EXs anyway
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Before I enter dungeons I alwas watch a video. Usually it's MTQ (MTQ Capture) on Youtube, but if she doesn't have one I watch Mr. Happy's.
    I find MTQ's videos are better than MrHappy's, but that's primarily because she is doing her videos more like a Lecture than MrHappy's which is more like rush to just get a video out there.

    That said, Nobody updates their videos. To give you an example. WoD's Cerberus, MTQ mentions the ABC solution, but the solution everyone uses now is the "all DPS in"

    So use the video if you hate surprises. None of the content was ever made easier by watching a video, it just gives you a frame of reference for dealing with DF PUG's who -also- watched the same video.
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    As far as videos go they are a nice reference for mechanics and how they can be handled but i kind of get frustrated with people and guides because some people treat them like some sort of gospel they must stick to no matter what. Even when somebody experienced suggests some strats that make things simpler for everyone some will be like "Mr.Happy's group does it this way so this is how we will do it" They can't think for themselves.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    They can't think for themselves.
    remembers me of my old t9 group :x they were running with the 3 green marks to the 3 spots in the middle. even if someone failed placing the red and yellow meteors before to the egde. instead of searching a new place for the green mark, they are just staying there, wiping the whole group. over and over again... everytime someone placed a meteor not correct in P1 i knew it is a wipe xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    As far as videos go they are a nice reference for mechanics and how they can be handled but i kind of get frustrated with people and guides because some people treat them like some sort of gospel they must stick to no matter what. Even when somebody experienced suggests some strats that make things simpler for everyone some will be like "Mr.Happy's group does it this way so this is how we will do it" They can't think for themselves.
    This happened to me with T5 - Watched, studied MTQ's vid, went in sweating bullets.... and it was the only method I knew for reference. But, o fcourse, every time I went in to practice, the method people wanted were different... o_O
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    Yumi Umi
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    Remember op don't treat it like a job/ homework. Treat it more like a quick lecture cuz watching a vid 100x over can ony do so much.
    #1 rule about healer
    U do what u must to keep the party alive.
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    U do what u must to keep the party alive.
    I approve of this message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Remember op don't treat it like a job/ homework. Treat it more like a quick lecture cuz watching a vid 100x over can ony do so much.
    #1 rule about healer
    U do what u must to keep the party alive.
    Well the flipside of that is you can't heal if you're dead. So never take stupid risks.
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