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    How much money would SE make...

    if they re-released ffxi with ffxiv graphics, and had to start by making new expansions instead of the old ones for new content?

    The battle system and UI from FFXI were beautiful because they worked so well together. FFXI's UI allowed the screen to be especially uncluttered, letting you experience your battles to the fullest. FFXIV's UI has shit all over the place, and no matter how I try to move it around, it's always in my way. However, it is possible that this is by design so that the UI may distract us from how utterly inferior the FFXIV battle system is. Anyways, back to the original question.

    If SE had to start FFXI all over with new graphics and new end-game content/expansions, but same everything else, would you buy it?

    I would.

    (Also, Abbysea and the level cap raise to 99 killed FFXI for me) T_T
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    FFXI had a terrible UI. Let it go.
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    Being that FFXI was never more than a nitch product, I dont know if thats a great idea. I enjoyed the hell out of FFXI but not everyone did. Did FFXI ever even break 750k subscribers at its peek?
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    I have 8 crafts at 50. All I did was watch T.V. and spam standard for easy mode synths. Enjoy leveling those crafts in 1.19 and beyond everyone!

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    FFXI had a great UI, I don't know what you are talking about Neptune. The UI was simple, yet elegant (mostly thanks to the controls as well. ex: cntl+w = list of weapon skills). The UI, battle, and controls system worked very smoothly together to create an aesthetically pleasing game.

    As for Tony's comment, FFXIV isn't even going to tread water against WoW. Deal with it. 750k subscribers is a hell of a lot more than FFXIV is ever going to get unless this game gets a MAJOR overhaul and not all of these little tiny changes made each patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjaman View Post
    if they re-released ffxi with ffxiv graphics, and had to start by making new expansions instead of the old ones for new content?

    The battle system and UI from FFXI were beautiful because they worked so well together. FFXI's UI allowed the screen to be especially uncluttered, letting you experience your battles to the fullest. FFXIV's UI has shit all over the place, and no matter how I try to move it around, it's always in my way. However, it is possible that this is by design so that the UI may distract us from how utterly inferior the FFXIV battle system is. Anyways, back to the original question.

    If SE had to start FFXI all over with new graphics and new end-game content/expansions, but same everything else, would you buy it?

    I would.

    (Also, Abbysea and the level cap raise to 99 killed FFXI for me) T_T
    If they had solo content probably.
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    They would probably loose money, I doubt the amount of money it would take to develop such a product would make them anymore of a substantial amount of money that XI already makes. Then you have to take into consideration that probably a lot of people that currently play XI would move to the new XI but leave those behind that wouldn't be able to run it since they havent updated their PC since they were able to get it to run XI. This would probably make those that could not move to the new product quit the original XI since the new XI pulled most of the population away hence SE loosing more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjaman View Post
    if they re-released ffxi with ffxiv graphics, and had to start by making new expansions instead of the old ones for new content?

    The battle system and UI from FFXI were beautiful because they worked so well together. FFXI's UI allowed the screen to be especially uncluttered, letting you experience your battles to the fullest. FFXIV's UI has shit all over the place, and no matter how I try to move it around, it's always in my way. However, it is possible that this is by design so that the UI may distract us from how utterly inferior the FFXIV battle system is. Anyways, back to the original question.

    If SE had to start FFXI all over with new graphics and new end-game content/expansions, but same everything else, would you buy it?

    I would.

    (Also, Abbysea and the level cap raise to 99 killed FFXI for me) T_T
    FF XI was never very successful.... the player base is quite low and the game does have better graphics then other more succesful mmo out there... so Square wouldn't make any money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    FF XI was never very successful.... the player base is quite low and the game does have better graphics then other more succesful mmo out there... so Square wouldn't make any money.
    FFXI maintained a 500k playerbase for quiet a long time which was about average for a pay to play (We do not count WoW its not normal its the mutant exception not the rule)

    Thats MAINTAINED by the way, not Peaked for two weeks then dropped like a rock.

    Also the graphics while aged on the Ps2 could look rather spectacular on the PC and Xbox360 and were above par for the entire time I played it which was up until recently. but those are opinions.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Thats MAINTAINED by the way, not Peaked for two weeks then dropped like a rock.
    These people don't understand that. They want a game they can get max level and "beat" in a month. Their attention span doesn't last more than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    FF XI was never very successful.... the player base is quite low and the game does have better graphics then other more succesful mmo out there... so Square wouldn't make any money.
    See this is uninformed right here. Based of the data from the mmo sub charts
    Pre Wow there was 2 games with more subs then FFXI at thier peak (Yes FFXI beat EQ). Lineage and Lineage II, then wow came out and obviously beat them... And guess what FFXI held the 4th spot until 2009 with Aion which holds the 4th spot right now.

    So I hate to say it but FFXI was one of the highest subed games in history and it holds the record for maintaining that capped sub count longer then any other mmo.
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