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    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    I despise the Cleric Shuffle so much that even when I play healer I refuse to use it.

    My damage as a healer is relatively insignificant and Cleric doesn't effect DoTs so I simply don't use it.

    Keeping DoTs up is far more damage from my end with little to no investment involved and I no longer risk not being able to heal the Tank and DPS properly should some one take a Critical Hit to the face.

    Just my personal preference mind you, but that's how I stand.
    Your personal preference is wrong. Your damage can be significant if you're actively keeping your DoTs up and periodically nuking. Cleric DOES effect DoTs and have no idea why you'd think it doesn't. Additionally, considering everything in this game is choreographed and both healers have a way to do moderate healing while in Cleric Stance (HoT and/or fairy) and the easability of pressing "Cleric on, Cleric off", there is nearly a reason to not be DPSing as much as possible.
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Just my personal preference mind you, but that's how I stand.
    Good thing you don't main healer. And stop spreading lies please.
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    VitalSuit's Avatar
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    Tarra Netsky
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    My damage as a healer is relatively insignificant and Cleric doesn't effect DoTs so I simply don't use it.
    Source? As a sch my dot damage is increased when in cleric stance and it's more than just the 10% from being in cleric stance.
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    Last edited by VitalSuit; 05-22-2015 at 02:17 AM.

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    Seryl199's Avatar
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    Delferia Seule
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by VitalSuit View Post
    Source? As a sch my dot damage is increased when in cleric stance and it's more than just the 10% from being in cleric stance.
    You are correct, Cleric Stance swaps your Mind stat with your Int stat, Int being the primary stat that will determine how much damage your DoT's will do based on potency. Healer DPS can be quite significant, and can even be higher than some of the lackadaisical DD's you encounter in the DF.
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    Kuwaitum's Avatar
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    Ivory Spirit
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    It really depends on the party formation and mentality, a party where members avoid damage as possible can allow the healer to switch to cleric. Yey in the case of a bad damage-eating people the healer will continously heal not only tank but both DPSs.

    When I was getting my Lancer to Lv.22 in Halatali, a scholar wanted to hasten the run so she was on cleric, healing on cleric too. The tank (main whitemage) did his best, but due lack of heals he KO'ed several times.. He would have died a lot more if the Black mage didn't heal!!! eventually we lost our tank because the scholar wanted to DPS.

    When I tank i allow my healer to do as they see fit, I don't rage over a wipe as long as it doesn't repeat twice. Them I ask them to turn off cleric and/or pay more attention.
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    Tocsin Wolndara
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwaitum View Post
    When I was getting my Lancer to Lv.22 in Halatali, a scholar wanted to hasten the run so she was on cleric, healing on cleric too. The tank (main whitemage) did his best, but due lack of heals he KO'ed several times.. He would have died a lot more if the Black mage didn't heal!!! eventually we lost our tank because the scholar wanted to DPS.
    Something in this story rings weirdly to me. Did the tank use any of his mitigation abilities? did the scholar summon his fairy while in cleric stance? if the fairy is summoned from normal stance, or even before the instance, the scholar shouldn't have had to heal through Halatali. I personally have done this run, and the fairy solo healed the entire thing without even requiring protect (my first two scholar cross classes are cleric and aero).

    That might also have been a new, and unknowledgeable scholar. I have had multiple scholars first get their classes, look at all their +INT statted armor, and think that cleric stance gives them better heals than regular stance does.
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    Last edited by tocsin; 05-07-2015 at 03:14 PM.

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    Kuwaitum's Avatar
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    Ivory Spirit
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    Something in this story rings weirdly to me..
    I am a Lv.50 Scholar and I did Halatali, I know the fairy is capable to heal.. but for some reason the heals were weak. I saw the fairy Embrace heals, I assume the scholar was manually giving commands to heal. more tahn 70% of heals were done by the BLM. She started healing better when another tank joined the duty.
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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    did the scholar summon his fairy while in cleric stance?
    Summoning in cleric stance doesn't affect the fairy. But yes, the story seems off to me too. I've done the entire dungeon with my fairy solo healing while I stay in clerics. Scholar could have stood out of range for the fairy to heal, or their gear was broken.
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Carvaka View Post
    Being the sucker for punishment I am, I have ground out 1000 light for nexus in Sastasha. NM. Been an interesting multitude of runs! But as soon as I see the healer in Cleric stance, I know it's going to be a good day Commendation guaranteed.
    That depends if they are healing you.
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