[Suggestion] SAMURAI

[DarkStar]

Just thought I'd pop in and drop my two cents.

Looking over the class idea, it certainly looks interesting. It does seem to have a little less straight damage reduction than the other tanks, but between Counter, Seigan, and the various Combo bonuses that benefit Counter, it seems like it'd still be able to keep up. Not to mention, linking defensive benefits to weaponskill combos makes it quite active, perhaps even moreso than Warrior.

As far as the issue of Tank vs. DPS, I honestly wouldn't care what it is. Samurai has kind of ran the gamut of roles throughout FF, between being an actual job and characters who were built similarly to a SAM, and it's always been enjoyable. I imagine that regardless of what role SE slots it into, they'd be able to figure out a way to make it inventive and unique compared to other jobs in that role.

[Riastrad]

I'm thinking the Draw Out skill in FFT would allow Samurai to have some serious potential in tanking. Wether it be status ailments (blind, silence, paralyze, etc.), healing skills or defense arts.

We have Warrior, the no magic tank. Paladin, sword and shield user armored by faith, Dark Knight, someone willing to be condemned to take down the truly wicked. Then we could have Samurai, a highly skilled warrior from the east that uses the spirits in his/her sword to defend the land of his/her lord (or maybe with the fall of Doma, they no longer have one and strive to find new purpose).

Oh man.. A Seven Samurai storyline would be really epic. You as a young Samurai along with six others, go to protect a village from... The Garleans!

[Seiryuukishi]

So the FF Tactics Samurai? That would be interesting to be honest.

That actually would be better suited to a tanking role as the "draw" or "iaido" could fulfill the role of mitigations, damage buffs, etc. for the job. Each sword or whatever way they implement it would apply something and depending on which, the cool down period. But I reckon in a way that could work in favor of a dps. Just too much left to speculation atm.

[Nakiami]

Whether Yoshi P feels it should be a DPS doesn't change the fact it was still in the running for a tank before, and is still the strongest candidate for a future tank.

Dark Knight and Samurai were what the community were pushing for, as well as a two-handed sword tank. Dark Knight became the communities two-handed sword tank. I'm not going to say anything much more as for what Samurai will be because it's all what Yoshi feels what's needed for the game. I strongly hope it becomes a Damage Dealer, but it's all dependent on how they choose to implement it.

@Riastrad That would be a pretty sweet story line.

[OMEGA_HACK]

Dark Knight and Samurai were what the community were pushing for, as well as a two-handed sword tank. Dark Knight became the communities two-handed sword tank. I'm not going to say anything much more as for what Samurai will be because it's all what Yoshi the development team feels what's needed for the game. I strongly hope it becomes a Damage Dealer, but it's all dependent on how they choose to implement it.

@Riastrad That would be a pretty sweet story line.

FTFY, Yoshi is only one man who gets a vote, I am sure he relies heavily on his team when it comes to game balancing.


EDIT: Also I like the Seven Samurai idea as a story line! That would be pretty awesome!

[Shippuu]

Dark Knight and Samurai were what the community were pushing for, as well as a two-handed sword tank. Dark Knight became the communities two-handed sword tank. I'm not going to say anything much more as for what Samurai will be because it's all what Yoshi feels what's needed for the game. I strongly hope it becomes a Damage Dealer, but it's all dependent on how they choose to implement it.

@Riastrad That would be a pretty sweet story line.

As has been pointed out in this thread. There are other options than simply a 2H sword tank for Samurai. i.e. Dual wield katana/tachi+wakizashi. We do not have a dual wielding tank, presto. And again, if Yoshi P was so adamant on SAM being a dps it would have never been on the drawing board and in competition with DRK for a new tank.

[Kotemon]

There are other options than simply a 2H sword tank for Samurai. i.e. Dual wield katana/tachi+wakizashi. We do not have a dual wielding tank, presto.

Well, if you read or watch any of the documentaries or samurai dramas of Miyamoto Musashi (foward to 27:50). He pretty much made dual use of the Katana and shorter side-sword a legitimate aggressive fighting style. So yeah dual katanas could very well be either a DD or offensive tank stance for samurai.

PS: Its not a very good documentary, but the Japanese ones are hard to find with out seeing low quality tape clips)

[Shougun]

Well, if you read or watch any of the documentaries or samurai dramas of Miyamoto Musashi (foward to 27:50). He pretty much made dual use of the Katana and shorter side-sword a legitimate aggressive fighting style. So yeah dual katanas could very well be either a DD or offensive tank stance for samurai.

I wouldn't use that as a fact list.. Trust History channel to 'sell' history (not saying you were or not, the two sword part is real though). Certainly referencing history but I've already face desked a few times and I'm not even 30 minutes in.

Two swords sound fun~ How would you separate a single sword class from a two sword, like a Ninja one weapon comes in a pair? The single sword user would need something to set his weapon apart from the dual sword user and hopefully it was more than "one comes in a pair". Maybe Nodachi (Odachi) vs the medium and shorter companion?

[Kotemon]

I wouldn't use that as a fact list.. Trust History channel to 'sell' history (not saying you were or not, the two sword part is real though). Certainly referencing history but I've already face desked a few times and I'm not even 30 minutes in.

Two swords sound fun~ How would you separate a single sword class from a two sword, like a Ninja one weapon comes in a pair? The single sword user would need something to set his weapon apart from the dual sword user and hopefully it was more than "one comes in a pair". Maybe Nodachi (Odachi) vs the medium and shorter companion?

I know, but I guess that's how they do documentaries now days. All the other films and life stories I've seen were all subtitled and I cant locate those online for reference. The others being various Japanese films about the guy, and those are slightly fictionalized as well. The last good one I remember seeing was a 26 episode drama that went up to his duel with Sasaki.

[Shougun]

I know, but I guess that's how they do documentaries now days. All the other films and life stpries I've seen were all subtitled and I cant locate those online for reference. The others being various Japanese films about the guy.

Oh, in that case thanks for at least getting us reference . You're right they all tend to have bias to sell*, but our Samurai ones are the most fun lol. We're in love with the romantic ideal - which is awesome and fine until we say that "was" the history. Would be one of my pet peeves that someone wants to sell a fun fantasy as a reality, with little or poor references (which happens all the time with the Samurai/Katana, not exclusive to this subject of course).

*Here is my favorite though: