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    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    i will be blunt, what is the goal of a Samurai?
    protect him lord, yep... by killing the enemy. samurai spend them time to polish them technique for only one goal.... kill enemy before be killed. that why i think yoshida did think this will be better to have it into a dps. they are not knight, they are warrior that polish them blade for.... kill and only kill.

    that said, we already have more than enough different tympe of tank with 2 hand. maybe time to add one dps with heavy weapon or maybe dual katana (even if it will be a ronin)
    Origin of Samurai
    c.1720-1730 Japanese, earlier noted samurafi: to serve, equivalent to sa- prefix + morafi watchfully wait (frequentative of mor- to guard)

    Basically the root origin of the word means person of slight status who watchfully waits and guards.
    Peasants → Grunts → Samurai → Daimyo → Shogun

    Not really saying that Samurai can't be a DPS job, but the fact that people are saying they were killers is a bit inaccurate, they were retainers to the daimio (daimyo)

    To further compound on this, the word samurai also stems from the variant saburai which means "to be in attendance, to serve"

    Don't really sound like a super-soldier killer to me.

    Anime has ruined the perception of what real samurai's did, and that is to defend their masters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
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    the difference is mainly in how they did "serve". the difference between samurai and knight are this, knight was indeed focusing on them training, but them goal while killing the enemy was to stay alive, it why shield was used by knight. the samurai on the other hand had never as goal as defend him life, he was training him skill, polishing them for be the perfect "tool" for them lord. they was serving as warrior, them goal was to kill, we can try to turn it in another sense, but that the point of any warrior of the history. them goal was to kill!

    the samurai wasn't defending them life, but them lord, them life was at the service of the lord, that why you rarely see a samurai use a shield. we are not talking of anime or stuff like this. samurai was using a lot of different weapon, even if the katana was them life. however, you will rarely see a samurai use a shield. because him life is not own.... him life is at the service of them lord. no greatest honor that die for them lord...

    Samurai =/= knight, before the japanse did meet the occidental them armor was not made of plate, but from lamellar armor. believe me, you can't oppose more two type of warrior than knight and samurai, even if they had the same role, serve them master... the way they was doing it was soo much different.

    but i digress, the point is what is a samurai? a warrior that use him high skill for kill him enemy. not a warrior that will be there for take hit from the enemy. samurai must'n be a tank... we have tons of other possibility of tank class. samurai must be a dps jobs, based on the technique.

    ps: other point, even if katana and two hand sword are different (depending of the time that not really true) i feel it will be a repetition of the type of weapon. i hope for the next tanking jobs a jobs using mace or blunt weapon. even a spear+shield will be better actually.
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