[Suggestion] SAMURAI

[Dualblade]

On SAM: I'm good with it being either a Tank or DPS, but if it was DPS...that thing about them having a skill (passive? Never played XI) for doing more damage from the front has me thinking that they could still be a DPS, while being in the front. With OP's idea of countering maybe they could counter atleast the big hits like, say, Titan's Mountain Buster (because if it was a tank counter class it'd be doing it anyways), having it do a bit less damage to the tank and all that. Basically a tank's best friend that isn't a healer.

As for Blue Mage: This also interests me tanking wise. I hadn't really thought about it but since its whole shtick is about using enemy attacks...mayhaps rather than having it for keeps it could work where when an enemy uses a signiture attack on it they will be able to use it for a certain amount of time/the rest of the battle. Again think Mountain Buster...just bust it right back out on Titan himself and see how he likes it! Now of course how the Def would work for them is another matter entirely...

[OMEGA_HACK]

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Final Fantasy 1 experts would like to have a word with you about that red mage slander. Also if you don't know the reference red mage solo with temper stacks and melee attacks is godsend.

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The only thing is that giving them something like that would either put them at a tremendous advantage over other DPS (if it was potent counter) or something so negligible they would be asked to just DPs from behind it.

[Dualblade]

The only thing is that giving them something like that would either put them at a tremendous advantage over other DPS (if it was potent counter) or something so negligible they would be asked to just DPs from behind it.

Yeah it would probably have to be a very fine balance, more so than just making it a straight out tank...

[Calypsx]

If you really love eastern themed jobs you can DPS.

Thank you, as I said I'm already doing that and have been. In fact I will probably continue to do so for the next few years even. I'm just stating my opinion on how it would be nice to have an eastern themed healer or tank and that if you really love a job its role shouldn't stop you from trying to play it.

However this was brought up because people say they can't play sword jobs because they are tanks and wont even touch them. SAM could be a dps and I would still play it, but I wonder how much of those who really love this job would play it if it did end up being a tank? There's this huge stigma against any classic iconic job becoming a tank in this game and that's kind of unfair.

My original post wasn't meant to be venomous towards dps players so I edited it. I apologize and understand if it came across that way. I would just love to see more players inspired to try the different roles the game has to offer.

[Shippuu]

Yeah it would probably have to be a very fine balance, more so than just making it a straight out tank...

That might have worked in slower games like FFXI, but it can't work in something like this game. Even if they did have something to mitigate big hits (Like Mountain Buster you mentioned) There's other problematic bosses like Kaliya on T11 who cleaves often and splits damage. If this ability was balanced towards that, then it'd be incredibly overpowered in other content with less cleaves etc. This is also why avoidance tanks can't really be a thing, the balancing is too problematic. They're either godly OP, or weak as hell and drop like a rock.

There's this huge stigma against any classic iconic job becoming a tank in this game and that's kind of unfair.

Exactly, man. So much this.

There will be upset people no matter what new tanking job we get if it's any iconic FF job. To me, Samurai is just the most logical choice to fit into the current game's tanking archetype. The only ways it doesn't fit is potential overlap with weapon theme and animation (but really with enough imagination this is easily solvable.) and thematically from a world/story standpoint. But there's enough basis in the setting for it to be here (worked with Ninja). It also wouldn't require tweaks to game itemization in terms of armor etc. So here's hoping.

[KaedrianLiang]

/OP!

Tank samurai is going to happen, Mr.YP mentioned during PAX that Samurai was on the table. The two contenders were SAM and DRK, DRK won out because it fits best with the current lore. Far Eastern themes seem to hail from Doma which we only started getting acquainted with, so maybe deep into 3.0 we will see SAM.

We are about to learn a ton of stuff about Yuguri, and with that more about the combat arts of Doma. I'm excited to see how far they will go with the Far East theme in correlation to classes, what kind of healers and sorcerers hail from Doma?

When Heavensward hits they will probably start looking to making these decisions if they haven't already thought about it.

[Spoekes]

I wouldn't set DEX as it's mainstat.
I'm in no way a Samurai expert but I would connect them with STR rather than DEX. But again I have no clue about them.

Would also be clunky to have 3 tanks share a set and one other set for Samurai, wouldn't it?

[Rhaja]

As for Blue Mage not needing to wear heavy armor and still tank, WoW also has one other method that worked despite it being completely accidental; Warlock's Metamorphosis. When the beta of Mist came out there was a rune that caused a huge tiff called the glyph of demon hunting. It turned Warlock's into tanks. Not just tanks, but THE tanks. Warlocks were taking on bosses that they had no right to. The Glyph gave them the needed tanking abilities, and a massive armor buff. Naked, demon hunting warlocks had as much armor as other tanks did. Tie this into the Job crystal for Blue Mage and they can stick to light armor or even mage gear.

I'll will admit though, if they gave Samurai a focus on speed, mobility, and Kiai's (battle roars) it could stand out well enough from WAR. And Toss Gil. Toss Gil would be a boss range pull ability.

[Erudain]

And my point is we aren't missing a "swordie" DPS because there's no rule or law that states the game has to have a sword based dps.

Yeah, there's the rule called "market needs", if enough subscribers keep asking for a sword dps, you have the means to give them one, you already have the target and you don't give them one...well, you won't win business man of the year...

[Riastrad]

Imagine how the dungeon groups in Doma went down if they only had 2 Dps roles to work with...

No Sastasha clear for you!