[Suggestion] SAMURAI

[silentwindfr]

I'm not advocating anything either way, I've personally stated earlier I would be fine with either one, however Silentwindfr, if someone posts on a thread that I spent time and care into creating for the public to see and then to have someone say without any solid ground "its not unique because I say so" you better be ready for the "advocacy" of me defending the IDEA of my creation.

As proof of this too, if you notice I have liked EVERY SINGLE POST in this thread even ones that you have posted, because honestly if it were to be a tank cool, if it were to be a dps cool, hell if they made it a healer it'd be cool. But don't $#!% on my idea because you say so and say something isn't unique when you didn't even fully comprehend the idea in the first place. Thanks.

sorry, i guess i have gone too far myself... believe me i will be happy with either way too... but i really feel that the spot of tank for a sam will be redundant with the warrior. even if we make it a more technicall jobs based on a tight management of tp and carefull cycle. if it fail as tank, it will be a trouble. seriously a jobs with less mitigation and almost as much hp than paladin is... bad. the trouble of the balance is not about only number but about the possibilty. like said, if your sam tank don't parry 2-3 time in row he will be into a dangerous situation. even the healer will have a hard time for keep it alive.

for make simple, if it's too hard for healer to maintain the sam, they will not take it as tank... they will prefer the easy solution of the warrior and paladin. because it work like this, people are idiot... they often choose the perfect group with perfect combinaison of skill. if the samurai is not a good tank that bring something new, it will only be played by a few player.

There are more than just 2 people thinking SAM will be a tank. But, you keep thinking that ;-)

it's sure, probably more than 1000 people... who know.but it was more about shippu and omega_hack

[mrmelgibson]

@Omega

You make a fair point. Imo, if you can't be bothered with reading the OP. You probably shouldn't argue about the OP.

[mrmelgibson]

i did spend more time in the tank role in my mmorpg career than you can imagine... but that not the point here... if it will be me, i don't care, i will take the time and master any system throw at me... but well if you bring this sort of system to average tank.... they will be unable to use it. and it will fail to bring more tank. most of them will feel frustration and simply go play them other jobs.

anyway, all i see it's you are two advocating to the tank sam, but if i was you, i will not ...
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There are more than just 2 people thinking SAM will be a tank. But, you keep thinking that ;-)

[mrmelgibson]

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He made up a new mitigation in the form of Counter. This doesn't mean this will be SAMs only means of defense. Just like every tank, SAM will have other defense cool downs and defense/mitigation cross class abilities. Its like saying all a warrior has is their ability to self heal. Forgetting about all the other defense abilities a warrior has. I think you might of missed the point.

[DarkStar]

Just thought I'd pop in and drop my two cents.

Looking over the class idea, it certainly looks interesting. It does seem to have a little less straight damage reduction than the other tanks, but between Counter, Seigan, and the various Combo bonuses that benefit Counter, it seems like it'd still be able to keep up. Not to mention, linking defensive benefits to weaponskill combos makes it quite active, perhaps even moreso than Warrior.

As far as the issue of Tank vs. DPS, I honestly wouldn't care what it is. Samurai has kind of ran the gamut of roles throughout FF, between being an actual job and characters who were built similarly to a SAM, and it's always been enjoyable. I imagine that regardless of what role SE slots it into, they'd be able to figure out a way to make it inventive and unique compared to other jobs in that role.

[Riastrad]

I'm thinking the Draw Out skill in FFT would allow Samurai to have some serious potential in tanking. Wether it be status ailments (blind, silence, paralyze, etc.), healing skills or defense arts.

We have Warrior, the no magic tank. Paladin, sword and shield user armored by faith, Dark Knight, someone willing to be condemned to take down the truly wicked. Then we could have Samurai, a highly skilled warrior from the east that uses the spirits in his/her sword to defend the land of his/her lord (or maybe with the fall of Doma, they no longer have one and strive to find new purpose).

Oh man.. A Seven Samurai storyline would be really epic. You as a young Samurai along with six others, go to protect a village from... The Garleans!