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    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
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    [Suggestion] SAMURAI

    First and foremost, this would be considered a Tank Role. To make it unique, it would focus on a special skill that only it would have: Counter. It would function like parry, however it would deal return damage based on your auto-attack and 10% of your main stat (dexterity for Samurai). So basically I've tried to create something akin to a parry/counter tank. I wanted to have elements of the SAM from XI present so I decided to use those skill names for the majority of the abilities and well as their ability and need to consume/replenish TP. Again I have included the abilities as an image (because well its a lot of text, and I can format it better on excel) and a copy of the image is in the hide bar. And again, Square-Enix feel feel to use any and all of these abilities!

    LINK TO SAM ABILITY IMAGE


    What do you think?

    Edit 5/6/15: There was some clipping happening on abilities...not sure why because I used the auto size on excel and its supposed to make everything fit...stupid technology!
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    Last edited by OMEGA_HACK; 05-07-2015 at 04:39 AM. Reason: changed image to fit properly

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    Defense skill would be Shirahadori and Hamedo.
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    Pretty sure Yoshida has mentioned before that Samurai would be more fitting in the role of a DPS rather than tank
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    -sigh- dont shatter my dreams like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    Pretty sure Yoshida has mentioned before that Samurai would be more fitting in the role of a DPS rather than tank
    Yup, this pretty much. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he mentioned that Samurai would of been a Tank but instead they thought of Dark Knight which links up to Ishgard a lot better then Samurai, and decided to make Dark Knight a tank. My guess the condition for this is Samurai is going to be a DPS when it gets released in the future. Imo we're gonna have too many Slashing Tanks and that's it, we need more slashing DPS and that's where SAM comes in. Maybe the next tank will use a Hammer or something different from a sharp weapon.

    Edit : On topic, I like the idea's tbh! But I doubt its going to be a tank
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    Last edited by Katana190; 05-06-2015 at 07:37 PM. Reason: grammar op

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana190 View Post
    Yup, this pretty much. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he mentioned that Samurai would of been a Tank but instead they thought of Dark Knight which links up to Ishgard a lot better then Samurai, and decided to make Dark Knight a tank. My guess the condition for this is Samurai is going to be a DPS when it gets released in the future. Imo we're gonna have too many Slashing Tanks and that's it, we need more slashing DPS and that's where SAM comes in. Maybe the next tank will use a Hammer or something different from a sharp weapon.

    Edit : On topic, I like the idea's tbh! But I doubt its going to be a tank
    What i read was that yoshi-p was going to release SAM. But dark knight fit more the role of a tank then SAM which mean SAM should then be a DPS.

    SAM have to be a DPS i would really be sad if other cool job become a dam tank. Also it my long dream to be a SAM in a FF MMO
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    Last edited by Zenaku; 05-07-2015 at 04:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana190 View Post
    Maybe the next tank will use a Hammer or something different from a sharp weapon.
    I'd like to have a war hammer wielding job in tank role. Two handed preferably but what would fill it? Let me do some research...

    So it seems that there is no specific role that ever used hammers or war hammers as a main weapon. So if it gets introduced for our use it may be a new job entirely to the series.
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    Last edited by Seiryuukishi; 05-09-2015 at 12:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    Pretty sure Yoshida has mentioned before that Samurai would be more fitting in the role of a DPS rather than tank
    Nothing wrong with disagreeing with him on that one. Firstly because we don't have many jobs that can can naturally be pushed into the tank role (the whole thing with DRK easily showed this). Secondly, a guy in lamellar armor (which is what samurai wore) not taking hits is just silly. Sure, lamellar armor can't take the same type of hits as well as plate armor can, but it wouldn't be unreasonable for SAM to have a mitigation mechanic to still bring them up to par with WAR and PLD.

    I could be convinced to accept SAM as a DPS, but they'd have to pretty much look like this instead of this.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    I could be convinced to accept SAM as a DPS, but they'd have to pretty much look like this instead of this.
    Which actual samurai never did in battle, but I guess people want animes instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    Which actual samurai never did in battle, but I guess people want animes instead.
    It was peeve of mine in FFXI. I saw a guy in armor (SAM) but he was not a tank (despite having the highest parry rating, but XI was weird when it came to mechanics it gave out). All I'm saying is that if you keep the lamellar armor, you should make it a tank. If you're gonna make it DPS, there are aesthetics and a time period you can take inspiration from, but it should look different (not to mention lighter than how samurai is normally portrayed).
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    Last edited by Duelle; 05-07-2015 at 08:58 AM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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