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    looks like SE just CAN'T deviate from the basic body shapes we already have have.... so I would like to see the next "beast-like" race to be based off something other than hyur..

    Wolf/Bear race using Rogydens body frame

    Bunny/Deer race using Lalafells body frame

    Angel/Bird race using Elzaans body frame

    I also REALLY hope all races will get a ton more customizing options! like at least 2 more face types for each race and beards/scars for all.

    Also, Miqot'e really need more beast like options... scruffy tail/ears, face markings, fur patches etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthy View Post
    looks like SE just CAN'T deviate from the basic body shapes we already have have.... so I would like to see the next "beast-like" race to be based off something other than hyur..

    Wolf/Bear race using Rogydens body frame

    Bunny/Deer race using Lalafells body frame

    Angel/Bird race using Elzaans body frame

    I also REALLY hope all races will get a ton more customizing options! like at least 2 more face types for each race and beards/scars for all.

    Also, Miqot'e really need more beast like options... scruffy tail/ears, face markings, fur patches etc.
    I would prefer SE just give us more options for the current races then anything. Maybe say the next expansion just don't give us a new race but gives us a wider range of customization.
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    I would really dig a Ronso type race.

    Also -- This race would be awesome ( i know they are technically moogles from 12 but) http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070325003033/finalfantasy/images/e/e7/XII-moogles.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Well, I guess we get Viera with the next expansion, because the latest concept arts looked very promising:


    This is everything I wanted. They look beautiful in the concept art. Tall, elegant (and proportional unlike Elezen lol), and beautiful.

    My friends told me not to cry and when they showed me that there was concept art... I was on the verge of tears lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    This is everything I wanted. They look beautiful in the concept art. Tall, elegant (and proportional unlike Elezen lol), and beautiful.

    My friends told me not to cry and when they showed me that there was concept art... I was on the verge of tears lol
    Elezen in the concept art were proportional. So if they do bring in new races prepare for the watered down model just so the designers can be lazy and use one armor that fits all models.



    Btw check out the curves and thin waist on that female elezen, ACTUAL CURVES!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talia_Hailwind View Post
    Elezen in the concept art were proportional. So if they do bring in new races prepare for the watered down model just so the designers can be lazy and use one armor that fits all models.

    Agreed, the concept art doesn't always mean it'll look exactly like it in the game:
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    viera plz

    (Viera) cause of this
    i dont think its an excuse for we couldnt get conterpart of male viera there are many many viera male sketch in internet and most of them looks great OFC, SE can handle this to create a male viera im sure its as easy as pie for them



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    Last edited by Rastaban; 05-10-2015 at 10:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suda View Post
    I understand its for variety. I just think its odd when people ask for beastly races in other MMO's and most of the time they are the least played race in the game. For a game like this I feel it would be the case as well. Why put all the effort into making a race a majority of your player base wouldn't even play.

    Makes me wonder if SE thought the same way with the Au Ra. I know they said if people really wanted a beastly race they would consider it for the next race.

    I guess it would be cool to see more beast like races though. I just wouldn't play one myself.
    For reference, "Furry" people do exist and they're the ones that ask for this. They're also the ones that are always disappointed in "catgirl" types. Take a look at Archeage, the reference "cat people" (Firran) looked more like a fuzzy knock off of FFXIV, but what wound up in the game is furrier and horribly ugly compared to the concept art. Fur is just terrible to animate for low-poly MMORPG models, so it winds up being "fur textures." The end result is always awful. The other three races in that game are sarcastically referred to as "european human, asian human, and LOTR elf"


    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    While I don't know how other MMOs handled this particular conundrum (if that conundrum even exists), a problem with adding beastial races to FFXIV is that the game has a pretty clear division between the "player races" and the "beastman races". There's a reason why Ixali can refer to a player as "smoothskin" and for it to make sense regardless of what race they are! If true furries were added to the game, there'd have to be a reason why they're not just considered to be another variety of beastman.

    That's the biggest reason why I doubt we'll ever see a furry race in FFXIV. Just humans with variants of size, limb proportions, and animal bits.
    Lore-wise, the Sylph and Moogles are the only ones that really interact with the players prior to the "beast tribe" quests. There's nothing really preventing the devs from allowing these to be "player" races other than there being no gear for any of them. The Moogles have some gear for one specific primal. But we won't see players as any of the existing beast tribes mainly because it would break the lore already established.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enthy View Post
    looks like SE just CAN'T deviate from the basic body shapes we already have have.... so I would like to see the next "beast-like" race to be based off something other than hyur..

    Wolf/Bear race using Rogydens body frame

    Bunny/Deer race using Lalafells body frame

    Angel/Bird race using Elzaans body frame

    I also REALLY hope all races will get a ton more customizing options! like at least 2 more face types for each race and beards/scars for all.

    Also, Miqot'e really need more beast like options... scruffy tail/ears, face markings, fur patches etc.
    What would happen is nobody would play these. Even if we recycled the body shapes so that gear doesn't need to be redesigned, as I mentioned above, fur doesn't animate very well for player models in a MMORPG. Fur and Feathers require much more complex animations, or cheating and just making it the "skin texture" making it horribly ugly.

    Another point that nobody mentioned yet, is that we end up with human-type faces because beast-type faces require a new full animation set for talking and emoting.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rastaban View Post
    (Viera) cause of this
    i dont think its an excuse for we couldnt get conterpart of male viera there are many many viera male sketch in internet and most of them looks great OFC, SE can handle this to create a male viera im sure its as easy as pie for them
    Based on what SE has done previously, they would have to create 4, two male, two female, with the differences between the two clans being minimal at best.
    http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/04/...cept-revealed/

    You know they did put stuff like this out for April Fools:
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000029.html



    So I wouldn't put it past SE to take suggestions seriously.

    The Japanese wanted "Races of mixed heritage (ex. Elezen-Hyur, Mi’qote-Lalafell, etc.) 26.8%" as the most popular option, where as everyone else wanted "Mammalian demi-beastmen (ex. a rabbit-eared race such as the Viera from FFXII, etc.) 24.9% 27.7% 26.1% 26.6% 31.0%" as their first option.

    Furries "Mammalian beastmen (ex.) wolfmen, gnolls, etc.) 3.3% 7.3% 7.1% 6.2% 9.9%" were last place for everyone.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 05-11-2015 at 12:03 AM.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJointss View Post
    I would really dig a Ronso type race.
    amen. Kimahri was awesome.

    Everyone who says they need to deviate from the humanoid look seem ridiculous. We have feet armor, how would that even work? For a snake like race the foot and leg armor just wrap around the scales or something? Then you'd have to get into race specific armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoeRangutan View Post
    quote
    Knowing the constraints that the races have to sort of conform to the armors we have already (no snake bodies, centaurs, etc) I think they mean they'd rather have more bestial races in the sense of like Argonians in Elder Scrolls


    Edit: NOPE. It was exactly what they meant. snake bodies, etc. In which case yeah... they wouldn't work.
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    Last edited by Chambers; 05-26-2015 at 10:35 PM.

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