Heavy RNG-based loot system must be changed.

[keroo]

The point is, this is a subscribed game. Most money you pay for subscription is from work or businesses which require you work yourself off. We cannot invest so much time for heavy 'grinds' to rewards ourselves in-game(raid-based).

I hope Square Enix understands the mature players and we cannot add more of commitments here than on real-life.

Eventually, players will get drained and realize it's not worth more of a time. Ending up quitting the game.

[MXMoondoggie]

The point is, this is a subscribed game. Most money you pay for subscription is from work or businesses which require you work yourself off. We cannot invest so much time for heavy 'grinds' to rewards ourselves in-game(raid-based).

I hope Square Enix understands the mature players and we cannot add more of commitments here than on real-life.

Eventually, players will get drained and realize it's not worth more of a time. Ending up quitting the game.

They will also quit when they get all the loot they want in a matter of a month to six weeks and find there is nothing else to do. Then they will be on here saying there is no new content.

[Bodicca]

They will also quit when they get all the loot they want in a matter of a month to six weeks and find there is nothing else to do. Then they will be on here saying there is no new content.

This is where having good PvP comes in.

[TallonOverworld]

I already quit the game once when atma was introduced and that was where RNG really mattered. Imagine joining a fate party, been grinding for 5 hours and get nothing then someone joins and gets his atma in just 1-2 fates. Really, how frustrating this can be for an average mmo player. After that, i understood the "logic" behind relic and how rng affected it and i gave up on it completely.Well i don't mind grinding FcoB with my static for a drop since imo coil requires individual-group skill to be covered and therefore it makes me a better player while being fun at the same time. No offense to zeta owners but imo relic stages don't increase your skill as a player(only zenith did) but only takes away your time and gil.