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  1. #21
    Player dice137's Avatar
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    Y'raja Lhiza
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 70
    "Lol, Yoshi-P said he likes RDM a lot so that must mean it's in the works! Ahyuckhyuck~"

    Yeah, no. It doesn't work like that.
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  2. #22
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    nuyu11's Avatar
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    Kokotsu Kotsu
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 70
    I Request Bard with karaoke set.
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  3. #23
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    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Eh, idk..You can't really (lore-wise) say RDM is the only Gunblade wielding class/job, as we have Gun-shield, Gun-lance, gun-blade, gun-fists, and gun-hammer/axe in the game already. To make a class where they are the only ones wielding a gun-type kinda breaks that. Now if all those gun-type weapons could appear in the game as well as introduce the RDM...okay! (and technically the RDM would probably get a gun-rapier).

    Now I do support adding RDM to the game, although I feel it is already coming.

    RDM (melee magic DPS)
    SAM (counter-attack tank)
    DNC (melee healer)

    calling it now for 4.0
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  4. #24
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Actually in XI it's a pretty effective TP-based healer, which is probably the direction they'd go if they added it to FFXIV
    Mechanically DNC was all over the place, so that's not entirely accurate. It may have had abilities that were heals that consumed TP, but it was nowhere near an actual healer. It did have a relatively easy time staying alive and soloing things because its heals couldn't be interrupted, access to Utsusemi through /NIN plus their naturally high dodge.

    And consider me part of the fencing sword camp. Gunblades don't really fit RDM. Now if they were to introduce a new job centered on a gunblade I guess that could work.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  5. #25
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    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Mechanically DNC was all over the place, so that's not entirely accurate. It may have had abilities that were heals that consumed TP, but it was nowhere near an actual healer. It did have a relatively easy time staying alive and soloing things because its heals couldn't be interrupted, access to Utsusemi through /NIN plus their naturally high dodge.

    And consider me part of the fencing sword camp. Gunblades don't really fit RDM. Now if they were to introduce a new job centered on a gunblade I guess that could work.
    Idk about that "DNC isn't always a healer" statement. I mean I pretty much was the healer in both merit parties, abyssea parties, and other endgame content. Also they were much better when you went DNC/SAM. It gave you power and better ways to keep your TP up for healing, and since they got their own stacks of Dual Wield trait /NIN was kinda pointless save for Utsusemi: Ichi/Ni which DNC really didn't need that much, unless you were soloing. If you have to classify it into a role, it would be considered a Support healer akin to SCH in game.
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  6. #26
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Idk about that "DNC isn't always a healer" statement. I mean I pretty much was the healer in both merit parties, abyssea parties, and other endgame content. Also they were much better when you went DNC/SAM. It gave you power and better ways to keep your TP up for healing, and since they got their own stacks of Dual Wield trait /NIN was kinda pointless save for Utsusemi: Ichi/Ni which DNC really didn't need that much, unless you were soloing. If you have to classify it into a role, it would be considered a Support healer akin to SCH in game.
    DNC was severely limited by recast timers. So on the one hand they could heal without fear of being interrupted, but could not do it at the frequency that is required from a healer in a party setting.

    Chances are we wouldn't have that issue here since the developer philosophy for abilities is that abilities are only limited by the GCD.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  7. #27
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    SE, please let DRK use Scythe.

    In fact, SE, please let DRK DUAL WIELD two scythes. (omg!)

    In fact, SE, please let DRK QUAD WIELD four scythes, can attach two to the ankles! (omg omg omg!)

    And maybe a fifth in between the teeth? Scythes everywhere! (nerdgasm)
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  8. #28
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    Ashgarth's Avatar
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    Ashgarth Sorel
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    Louisoix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Whenever I imagine a RDM using a gunblade I can only think of this:

    https://youtu.be/Vt9vl8iAN5Q?t=2m6s

    SE Please.
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  9. #29
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AzraelX View Post
    Instead of a fencing weapon i think giving Gun blade to a Red mage would be awesome existing and excite a lot of people. PLEASE CONSIDER THIS DEVS!!
    In that case, make the fencing rapier the weapon of Rune Fencer.
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  10. #30
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Give RDM a gun-rapier, but not a gun-blade

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    Whenever I imagine a RDM using a gunblade I can only think of this:

    https://youtu.be/Vt9vl8iAN5Q?t=2m6s

    SE Please.
    Exactly this is a gun-rapier
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