Thread: 3.0 Launch Predictions

Originally Posted by Verdan

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I think you are projecting yourself personally rather than simply assuming what a new player would feel or even understand what is happening and why. If a new player bought the expansion they also too bought the base game, because without it they cannot even play the expansion. Knowing this, they either have no knowledge of what an expansion means or they bought it knowing full well they would have to play the base-game first and level up into the expansion.

Empathy isn't projection, but whatever dudes. Maybe I'm wrong. But I cannot foresee a way this doesn't get players very upset who haven't been in this FF bubble for as long as the forum has.

Originally Posted by Verdan

Empathy isn't projection, but whatever dudes. Maybe I'm wrong. But I cannot foresee a way this doesn't get players very upset who haven't been in this FF bubble for as long as the forum has.

If you feel better calling what you are doing empathy, by all means (it's really not, but it's also not the subject at hand). If a new player understands that this is an expansion to an already existing game, than they should have no issue with leveling, completing the story and moving on to the expansion if they choose to buy it.

Why is everyone acting like base FFXIV ARR is some deadweight boring piece of gobbue dung you have to deal with before you get to the nice and shiny Heavensward? If new players had the ability to completely skip it most of them would do it just to be with their friends faster or they would be pushed to do it by community. I think that except the filler quests FFXIV has a nice story and I also believe that atleast half of the players here love Final Fantasy series especially for the story.

Expansion comes from word expand which doesn't mean to delete original content, but rather enlarge it so.. if people don't understand that, they should stop buying expansions.

Originally Posted by Verdan

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Um, OK I'm gonna go out on a limb here...
See, a player who buys FFXIV as a NEW game...will have never done any of the content at all. It's ALL new to them.
Hell, with all the mixing of coerthas stuff from 2.4 onward, it might even be hard to tell where 2.0 ends and 3.0 begins without knowing about the 2.55 cutscene. It's all integrated with tons of foreshadowing.

Originally Posted by kyuven

Um, OK I'm gonna go out on a limb here...
See, a player who buys FFXIV as a NEW game...will have never done any of the content at all. It's ALL new to them.
Hell, with all the mixing of coerthas stuff from 2.4 onward, it might even be hard to tell where 2.0 ends and 3.0 begins without knowing about the 2.55 cutscene. It's all integrated with tons of foreshadowing.

i agree think its not gonna be as big as a problem as certain groups of people are making out.. heck if i hadnt played ff14 n brought the bundle id be excited to play a new game not go OH NO!!! cant access dark knight or heavensward right away?? not gonna bother playing this game then... really ARR is a beautiful game with tons to do majority of new players wont even care about stuff being locked behind HW expansion.. its not the 1st game to ever lock content behind somethin ._.

Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

When I bought FFXI, I couldn't do the Zilart stuff right away

I was in Korroloka tunnel on day one, a Zilart zone. I blame the NPC standing guard, he told me I was a brave adventurer that could handle it.

Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

Oh you went to Sky right away? >.> The implication was they wouldn't be able to do expansion stuff (the expansion is level 50+ zones) Korroloka tunnel was a low level zone that led to a mid level zone...to be used for...leveling up from the start.

It was expansion content that didn't require you to be at level 50+, kinda the way you would expect playing a level 30 job would be...