3.0 Launch Predictions

**SDaemon** · 05-05-2015 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Verdan

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I think you are projecting yourself personally rather than simply assuming what a new player would feel or even understand what is happening and why. If a new player bought the expansion they also too bought the base game, because without it they cannot even play the expansion. Knowing this, they either have no knowledge of what an expansion means or they bought it knowing full well they would have to play the base-game first and level up into the expansion.

**kyuven** · 05-05-2015 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Verdan

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Um, OK I'm gonna go out on a limb here...
See, a player who buys FFXIV as a NEW game...will have never done any of the content at all. It's ALL new to them.
Hell, with all the mixing of coerthas stuff from 2.4 onward, it might even be hard to tell where 2.0 ends and 3.0 begins without knowing about the 2.55 cutscene. It's all integrated with tons of foreshadowing.

**Spawnie** · 05-05-2015 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by kyuven

Um, OK I'm gonna go out on a limb here...
See, a player who buys FFXIV as a NEW game...will have never done any of the content at all. It's ALL new to them.
Hell, with all the mixing of coerthas stuff from 2.4 onward, it might even be hard to tell where 2.0 ends and 3.0 begins without knowing about the 2.55 cutscene. It's all integrated with tons of foreshadowing.

i agree think its not gonna be as big as a problem as certain groups of people are making out.. heck if i hadnt played ff14 n brought the bundle id be excited to play a new game not go OH NO!!! cant access dark knight or heavensward right away?? not gonna bother playing this game then... really ARR is a beautiful game with tons to do majority of new players wont even care about stuff being locked behind HW expansion.. its not the 1st game to ever lock content behind somethin ._.

**Verdan** · 05-05-2015 02:44 PM

Empathy isn't projection, but whatever dudes. Maybe I'm wrong. But I cannot foresee a way this doesn't get players very upset who haven't been in this FF bubble for as long as the forum has.

**SDaemon** · 05-05-2015 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Verdan

Empathy isn't projection, but whatever dudes. Maybe I'm wrong. But I cannot foresee a way this doesn't get players very upset who haven't been in this FF bubble for as long as the forum has.

If you feel better calling what you are doing empathy, by all means (it's really not, but it's also not the subject at hand). If a new player understands that this is an expansion to an already existing game, than they should have no issue with leveling, completing the story and moving on to the expansion if they choose to buy it.

**OMEGA_HACK** · 05-05-2015 03:05 PM

When I bought FFXI, I couldn't do the Zilart stuff right away (NA players did not get the game when it was only XI vanilla, we had only the bundle) and that didn't bum me out...There was plenty of stuff that kept my attention until then. Also I main'd DRG in XI and I couldn't play it right away, I had to get to 18 first, unlock my subjob, level another job to 15 so I could level my first job to 30 without being gimped, then do the DRG side quest to unlock it; only then could I play my DRG (I honestly did not level up ANY other job in XI until COR came out 3-4 years later as none of the other ones interested me). Not to mention leveling up in XI was a royal PAIN IN THE @$$, leveling up in XIV is a freakin' joke, in fact out of boredom until the expansion I've started leveling up my other jobs in this game, and it has taken me 4 days (5 hours a day) to level from 1-40 on my Ninja, and with the way N.Than Fates dropping exp like popcorn chicken at Popeye's I can probably get to 50 within 30 hours of playtime.

Main story line takes roughly 50-60 hours to complete from 2.0-2.56. So new players will have to deal with roughly 80-90 hours of catching up, at 5 hours a day (I assume is the average play time for most people), that is up to 18 days or 2 and a half weeks. The first stuff (besides leveling and jobs) starts to drop 2 weeks after the game launches...so they will only be a half a week behind assuming they play every day for 5 hours, oh wait Early Access, so they can actually be on par with the content release if they really try, if not they will only be slightly behind.

**StouterTaru** · 05-05-2015 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

When I bought FFXI, I couldn't do the Zilart stuff right away

I was in Korroloka tunnel on day one, a Zilart zone. I blame the NPC standing guard, he told me I was a brave adventurer that could handle it.

**OMEGA_HACK** · 05-05-2015 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I was in Korroloka tunnel on day one, a Zilart zone. I blame the NPC standing guard, he told me I was a brave adventurer that could handle it.

Oh you went to Sky right away? >.> The implication was they wouldn't be able to do expansion stuff (the expansion is level 50+ zones) Korroloka tunnel was a low level zone that led to a mid level zone...to be used for...leveling up from the start.

**StouterTaru** · 05-06-2015 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

Oh you went to Sky right away? >.> The implication was they wouldn't be able to do expansion stuff (the expansion is level 50+ zones) Korroloka tunnel was a low level zone that led to a mid level zone...to be used for...leveling up from the start.

It was expansion content that didn't require you to be at level 50+, kinda the way you would expect playing a level 30 job would be...

**Warlyx** · 05-06-2015 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by StouterTaru

It was expansion content that didn't require you to be at level 50+, kinda the way you would expect playing a level 30 job would be...

FFXI expansions added content for low lvls too , COP only asked for lvl 30 for Promyvions , and then 40 for the next zone and 50 for next one...

Heavenward is a expansion that focus on 50-60 content

New players will enjoy 2.0 because everything is new and fresh for them. However ppl returning that are already at 50 and stoped playing in 2.2-2.4 that will QQ the most , why im forced to do moogle, ramuh , Chrysalis , Shiva , Steps of faith and all the mundane quest in the middle.

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