What is wrong with reclaim?

[XiXiQ]

Does your seemingly consistent and predictable streak of bad luck indicate that the RNG isn't working the way that it should? No.

Whether RNG is working "how it should" or not isn't the root of the problem. If this is how it's supposed to work - with the same players getting shafted over and over with no end in sight (and if you use the bell curve as an example, you're talking about 10%-20% of them) - that is a serious game problem that requires addressing, rather than some interesting mathematical study.

[MN_14]

I'm pretty sure the success rate of reclaim averages to 90% over a large enough sample size. For me, reclaim works the vast majority of times, although there have been times when I've had a number of failures in a row.

Like many players (most?), my luck seems to run in streaks, so I suspect that the algorithm used might not be the greatest.

[LineageRazor]

Whether RNG is working "how it should" or not isn't the root of the problem. If this is how it's supposed to work - with the same players getting shafted over and over with no end in sight (and if you use the bell curve as an example, you're talking about 10%-20% of them) - that is a serious game problem that requires addressing, rather than some interesting mathematical study.

That's exactly why I said it may not be the best system. It is, however, the easiest system to implement, as it does not require keeping track of past performance in order to "nudge up" or "nudge down" future performance.

Folks were complaining at length about the "true randomness" of Atma drops a while back, and while SE DID bump up the drop rate, as far as anyone knows it's still truly random and will remain that way. There's a statistical possibility, however unlikely, that a player could STILL farm for years and never see an Atma drop. I don't expect SE to do anything about Reclaim aside from, possibly, upping the success rate - but if your bad luck continues to be bad, that won't help one bit.

[GenJoe]

After failing to reclaim on my artisan off hand crafts 2 out of 3 times..That was it..
After that, I worked on my rotation so I rarely ever need to reclaim.. and if I have to I'll just hit Byregots without a steady hand instead and go for the finisher..
Worked out good for me, only failed one craft since then so far and that was because I forgot to put in all the cross class skills..

[Squand]

If this is how it's supposed to work - with the same players getting shafted over and over with no end in sight..."In fact, I generally don't get to 10 tries."

Your results are as expected for a small sample size. Your desire for gratification is misplaced. A friend of mine botched 8 reclaims in a row. 0 tears shed, because that's how math works. And over the course of all her crafting she'll make those botches back.

If the risk is too psychologically upsetting, just NQ the item.

You will make 100s of millions of gil crafting and selling, blowing up 10-20 out of 100 tries, is the same cost of business we all have. If the RNG doesn't hit you in reclaim it will hit you somewhere else. It evens out. We are all being treated fairly. Sometimes monsters deal nothing but crit and blow up a raid, this is the same thing. It's a pay to play system. You have to do things over and over to progress.

[Duuude007]

Every single time I break on reclaim, I smile a little. Because I know the karmic balance of the universe will make it so I don't botch something important in the future, as a result of that break.

Think of it like that. You'll live happier.

[GenJoe]

Instead of being hostile, heed other people's advice, listen to what they're actually telling you..

3 star crafting, starting with hq mats?? You shouldn't need to reclaim at all.. Sure, if you fail 5, 6, or 7 HT, then maybe you need to.. But that happens very rarely..

In fact, on my most recent craft, Inferno Blade, I failed Rapid Synth 3 times, and HT 4 times.. I still managed to hit 76% hq.. and luckily got the hq from it.

It's not the RNG that makes or breaks a crafter, it's what you do to mitigate its effects, that's the true test.

[Empty-handed]

oh man... why risk Inferno Blade NQ at 76% ;_;

reclaim!

[PariSexus]

It all comes down to experience and ultimately RNG. I haven't had issues thus far with reclaim and *in my experience* the success rate is closer to 99% but that's how probability works. People see 90% and forget that it doesn't mean that 1/10 times it will fail but rather you have 10% chance of failure on every reclaim. Just because something is 90% success doesn't mean it can't fail every time.

[Yumi_umi]

If its not reclaim failing its rapid synth + steady hand 2 lol
Just damnnz..