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    StouterTaru's Avatar
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    Stouter Taru
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    If you are using reclaim enough to get an accurate gauge of it's actual success/fail rate (hundreds/thousands of times), then you are doing something wrong at your crafting.
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    Xixi Eclipse
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    If you are using reclaim enough to get an accurate gauge of it's actual success/fail rate (hundreds/thousands of times), then you are doing something wrong at your crafting.
    I have not used it hundreds or thousands of times. Not likely to either considering it's failure rate so far.
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    Minerva Nakts
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    I'm pretty sure the success rate of reclaim averages to 90% over a large enough sample size. For me, reclaim works the vast majority of times, although there have been times when I've had a number of failures in a row.

    Like many players (most?), my luck seems to run in streaks, so I suspect that the algorithm used might not be the greatest.
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    If you are using reclaim enough to get an accurate gauge of it's actual success/fail rate (hundreds/thousands of times), then you are doing something wrong at your crafting.
    Well, not sure what you mean here. How do you craft HQ 4 star? As example, I just crafted up my PLD accessories (all 5). They each require 3 Platinum Ingot as an input to the final craft. These are 4 star (568/5783), as are the final crafts. Reclaim was essential to get all the 15 HQ ingots I needed. HQ'ing 4 star is easy if you have HQ mats - still easy but a bit of a grind if those mats are also 4 star.

    Now, I didn't use reclaim enough to be statistically significant but that is only because I wasn't crafting tons of stuff (such as to sell).

    It's all RNG. While I hate failing reclaim, I hate NQ'ing from 90% even more.
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    Last edited by Waeksyn; 05-09-2015 at 07:44 AM.

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    Duuude Bismarck
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    "Average" will never be a perfect indicator to prove when you are due a success or failure.

    That said, with large enough of a sample size, it can be a partial indicator. If the sample is too small, it isn't an indicator at all.

    The OP example is certainly the latter.
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    Arugo Kusaragi
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    After failing to reclaim on my artisan off hand crafts 2 out of 3 times..That was it..
    After that, I worked on my rotation so I rarely ever need to reclaim.. and if I have to I'll just hit Byregots without a steady hand instead and go for the finisher..
    Worked out good for me, only failed one craft since then so far and that was because I forgot to put in all the cross class skills..
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Every single time I break on reclaim, I smile a little. Because I know the karmic balance of the universe will make it so I don't botch something important in the future, as a result of that break.

    Think of it like that. You'll live happier.
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    Instead of being hostile, heed other people's advice, listen to what they're actually telling you..

    3 star crafting, starting with hq mats?? You shouldn't need to reclaim at all.. Sure, if you fail 5, 6, or 7 HT, then maybe you need to.. But that happens very rarely..

    In fact, on my most recent craft, Inferno Blade, I failed Rapid Synth 3 times, and HT 4 times.. I still managed to hit 76% hq.. and luckily got the hq from it.

    It's not the RNG that makes or breaks a crafter, it's what you do to mitigate its effects, that's the true test.
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    Deor Nitengael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Every single time I break on reclaim, I smile a little. Because I know the karmic balance of the universe will make it so I don't botch something important in the future, as a result of that break.

    Think of it like that. You'll live happier.
    With that in mind, every time I succeed on Reclaim, I know some day I'll NQ that 90% quality lol.
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    oh man... why risk Inferno Blade NQ at 76% ;_;

    reclaim!
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