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    I disagree with anyone who says meters will not make a notable difference in DPS. In my experience anytime you keep score publicly on ANYTHING. People perform better, most of us have some pride. I think the strenuous objection you see to them tells much of the story. As a healer I can tell with absolute certainty that there are people who are doing practically nothing. Those people deserve to their performance to be shown for everyone to see. It is beyond incompetence it is, you will carry me.

    In a 4/8 man run on your way to the 1st boss if the tank can't hold aggro on trash or the boss, can't move mobs where he is supposed to, he gets called out or replaced. If healer lets people repeatedly die...same deal. You are all OK with that. If a DPS or two is performing apathetically it becomes a large burden on others and can cause wipes. Right now we have to guess to figure out who the problem is. It isn't fair and it isn't right. Apathetically bad players can comfortably hide right now as DPS. I am of the opinion just publically making meters available will fix a large part of this and I say the loud opposition to the possible inclusion of meters is evidence. If people didn't care about others knowing how bad they are, If there was zero opposition, you could make the argument they would have no impact....The size and magnitude of the voice against convinces me of their impact, they don't want be outed, they don't want to lose their free ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magusrex View Post
    I disagree with anyone who says meters will not make a notable difference in DPS. In my experience anytime you keep score publicly on ANYTHING. People perform better, most of us have some pride. I think the strenuous objection you see to them tells much of the story. As a healer I can tell with absolute certainty that there are people who are doing practically nothing. Those people deserve to their performance to be shown for everyone to see. It is beyond incompetence it is, you will carry me.

    In a 4/8 man run on your way to the 1st boss if the tank can't hold aggro on trash or the boss, can't move mobs where he is supposed to, he gets called out or replaced. If healer lets people repeatedly die...same deal. You are all OK with that. If a DPS or two is performing apathetically it becomes a large burden on others and can cause wipes. Right now we have to guess to figure out who the problem is. It isn't fair and it isn't right. Apathetically bad players can comfortably hide right now as DPS. I am of the opinion just publically making meters available will fix a large part of this and I say the loud opposition to the possible inclusion of meters is evidence. If people didn't care about others knowing how bad they are, If there was zero opposition, you could make the argument they would have no impact....The size and magnitude of the voice against convinces me of their impact, they don't want be outed, they don't want to lose their free ride.
    Funny enough, before I didn't really care about parsers but it's been topics/arguements like this that have made me pick a side. If parsers are truly a way to facilitate improvement among damagers and, twelve willing, actually bring some simblance of respect or even acceptance back to the role, then I'm all for it. You yourself say that people have pride, right? Well my philosophy is that in order to have pride/confidence in yourself, you must first have something worth having pride/confidence in. In other words, pride is a right you have to earn. You don't just get it by being. If other damagers are complacent in being treated as expendable, interchangable pawns at best and parasites at worst then that's fine, just don't drag the image of people that actually want to excel down with you. Those who can/will better themselves through parsers will and those that won't won't, simple as that. If they get kicked from parties due to poor performance they can form their or work to improve themselves.

    Also, consider this, parses can not only be used as a sword against dps but a shield too. Say there's someone in your party who doesn't like your rotation and calls you out on it, but if your numbers are good enough you can use them validate your methods.
    There's probably more but I don't like to get ranty. Plus that speech looked like the MMO equivilant of a villain's "Survival of the Fittest" speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrejyaAthenes View Post
    Also, consider this, parses can not only be used as a sword against dps but a shield too. Say there's someone in your party who doesn't like your rotation and calls you out on it, but if your numbers are good enough you can use them validate your methods.
    There's probably more but I don't like to get ranty. Plus that speech looked like the MMO equivilant of a villain's "Survival of the Fittest" speech.
    That would be awesome, all I care about is that people make an effort to carry themselves, they don't have to do it my or your way, as long as they try, I don't care how they get results, If they are getting them differently than I am , I get to learn something too win and win.
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    Last edited by Magusrex; 05-09-2015 at 12:23 AM.