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    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    A wall only exists when there is a DPS check hence the reason people primarily in the parser camp that do use parsers typically participate in endgame where there are a # of DPS checks. The reason you won't see extremes such as the LEX example you provided is because when content is nerfed and when player(s) are overgeared for content, DPS optimization is not a requirement. We can speculate all day about how the community will handle parser's but as you can already tell by the masses that use them, people rarely abuse them in outdated content. And it has nothing to do with the fact that they are outlawed by the ToS which is my point.
    There's not a lot of speculation involved when history always repeats itself in this case. There's not a lot of speculation involved when I can provide evidence to showcase people doing bad things in similar ways. LEX was just an example. We could throw in Shiva, Ramuh, hardest 4-man dungeons, etc. It doesn't matter. People generally don't want to see, even if it doesn't directly affect them, further potential walls set up... especially unreasonable ones.

    People rarely misuse them period because it's a matter that is against ToS. If mocking someones raid progress were against ToS, would you still freely do it? LOL That's the shield that the GMs/devs have to combat bad behavior. It has everything to do with the fact it's against ToS because of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    That's the exact image that I was talking about in my post. I've seen literally nothing beyond it of anybody being reprimanded. Ever.
    Speaking from experience of difficulty to "legally" reprimand people in a professional setting, the perpetrator playing dumb makes it even harder to act on first offense in many cases without previous AUPs (agreed upon procedures) or strict consequences ruled. This is why warnings are issued. Repeat offenses usually provide enough reasonable evidence that, without a shadow of a doubt, they are aware of and intentionally violating rules. I mean, if you truly believe what you say, you should test the waters and admit, in-game that you parse. Do a dungeon and gloat about your overwhelming numbers over others. Gloating is not an offense of itself afterall. If you encounter a GM, admit you are using a parse and tell them that you know nothing can happen to you as a result. See where that gets you, if you truly believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    There's not a lot of speculation involved when history always repeats itself in this case. There's not a lot of speculation involved when I can provide evidence to showcase people doing bad things in similar ways. LEX was just an example. We could throw in Shiva, Ramuh, hardest 4-man dungeons, etc. It doesn't matter. People generally don't want to see, even if it doesn't directly affect them, further potential walls set up... especially unreasonable ones.
    I can provide examples of people misusing vote kick, thats pretty irrelevant to the fact that it still serves it's purpose and is used appropriately in majority cases. The fact is that fodder content like primals, dungeons don't have DPS checks that are difficult to meet because everyone outgears content by 20-40 ilvls. As such DPS optimization is not a requirement to clear the content so people won't construct their party requirements for optimization 99 times out of a 100. The 'wall' that you're talking about only exists for relevant content which you and majority of the people in this thread don't even pursue until you overgear the content and it's nerfed.

    You can keep believing that's its not misused because of ToS. Like I said, lack of perspective will lead your reasoning towards that.
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    Last edited by Massterchef; 05-07-2015 at 06:07 AM.